Car Audio Help (again...)

[mztykal]

Ok, got my sounds installed. Here's how it's hooked up in a '90 CRX.

Deck (40x4 max) which is powering my seperates. Then my amp (600-watts max) is pushing my two 10's (900-watts max total).

The subs aren't hitting as hard as I want them to. It doesn't have that deep resonating sound. How the hell can I get them to shake within more than a 10ft radius? I really want a lot of low end. The subs are Polk EX's (i know, they're not perfect, but they should do, right?)...

Thanks in advance for the help. BTW, the amp is a Kenwood 600-watt. Every wire in the care is Lighting Audio.


-MzTyKaL <----has sh*tty sounds...

 

[Viperoni]

What kinda box are they in? (correct size?)
What are you crossing them over at?

 

[warcleric]

Oh great, just what the world needs, another Honda subwoofer enclosure. Hate to break it to you, but car audio is for the people INSIDE the car.....what do you mean you want it to hit outside a 15ft radius? Why? are you going to open a roaming dance club? Keep your sound inside your car and make it as nice as possible inside....forget trying to impress your ricer buddies.

 

[iamwiz82]

warcleric, the booming of bass is ricerese for &quot;Hey guys, look at me!!&quot;

 

[Viperoni]

Shut up guys.
He's just asking how to get more bass.
Who cares what car it's coming from, bass is all good

 

[warcleric]

Viperoni: I could care less if it was a 2001 Viper, I am just saying that car audio is for the people inside the car, why care about what it sounds like 10ft away from the car, anything that can be heard outside the car at all is just a nuisance to everyone else. We dont want to hear your music, keep it inside your car.

 

[mztykal]

warcleric - Hate to break it to yah bud, but you're wrong. I'm not trying to drive around with sh*t that loud. Me and my friends have a bet going, $800.00 dollar limit on installs and parts. We're having a sound-off. That's why I'm asking. I just want to know how to get it so I can win our bet.

The subs are in a tuned and ported bandpass box. The amp is wired into a 600-watt mono load going to the subs. It doesn't hit as hard as I want it to. Any way to get it out of the 10ft radius and into the 15ft radius. Thanks!

 

[divinemartyr]

Wired mono is correct, but have you got it bridged?

dm

 

[mztykal]

divinemartyr - I dunno. The guy at the car audio place did everything for me. How do I know if it's bridged?

 

[warcleric]

Hate to break it to you bud, but you are wrong. If you dont play it loud then that is great, but what I said was,

<< anything that can be heard outside the car at all is just a nuisance to everyone else >>

so if you are playing it so that it can be heard outside the car, you are being a nuisance. If not then cool.

 

[warcleric]

But for some help, first find out what Ohm the speakers are capable of running at, then the amp. With a pair of speakers you are probably going to be running 2 Ohm bridged, if they didnt bridge them then go someplace that will. You will increase your output tremendously. All of this should have been researched before you bought the stuff, because depending on how far down they can be bridged will determine your output gain. Just for an example I can shake the license plate off the car parked next to me with a good 200w amp and 3 subs that will bridge down to 1 Ohm. So if you arent hitting hard with a 600watt amp then you either got a sh!t amp or something is not set up right.

Edit: Just saw the kenwood amp, sorry, like I said you should have done more research before you bought.

 

[mztykal]

warcleric - We're gonna be in a EMPTY park with only our friends. That's it. Who am I irritating then? The squirels?

Oh wait, I'm in Hawaii. Make that myna birds...

 

[mztykal]

The subs are 4-ohm. The amp can go to 2-ohm's.

 

[warcleric]

myz: dont take me wrong, I am big on car audio, did Pro-class IASCA from 1992-1994. But Bass is mostly an afterthought in a real system. High's and mid's are where all the precision goes and they are what make the system sound the best. You do have some sort of crossover on the subs right? I wouldnt put anything to them over 60Hz or so.

 

[divinemartyr]

How many channels is the amp, 2 or 4? Hopefully 2, it'll be easy to bridge it if it is.

dm

 

[warcleric]

Myz: well if that amp really can go down to 2 Ohm, take it to another installer and get him to bridge it for you. Alot of installers wont do it because they are told not to by there company.

 

[warcleric]

dm: oops, damn I was assuming it was 2...god I hope it is. All my years dealing with end users and I still assumed something so basic. Please tell me it is a 2-channel.

 

[mztykal]

The amp is a 2-channel. I like how my seperates sound. They sound clean and I'm happy with my mids/tweeters. Just the bass leaves something to be desired. I'm taking the car back to the place where they installed in because the tweeters I got were blown. So I'm going to go get new ones and get those installed. Hopefully it sounds waaay better.

 

[glen]

For any driver, the larger the enclosure, the more gradually the low frequency extention rolls off. The largest box you can have is basically your trunk in a sedan. If you are in a hatch back, you may need to either use a pole-shifter in a sealed box, or a vented enclosure designed to give you a shelving boost.

 

[Doodoo]

All depends on how low ur amp can go...can it go to 2 ohm mono or 4 ohm mono? If its 4 ohm mono....then ur not gettin the most outta it.

 

[warcleric]

Doodoo: lower is better, 4 ohm will be less power per speaker than 2 ohm.

 

[Doodoo]

Ummmm...yeah i know. Isn't that what i jus said? If hes got two subs...and his amp only goes to 4 ohm mono he can't get the most out of his subs. He can't bridge em cuz if he wires his subs he can only get an 8 ohm or 2 ohm load.

 

[Z24]

What model is the Amp? That would help some.

Also, what are the subs?

 

[Nutdotnet]

If you really wanted that DEEP bass you may have wanted to get something other than 10's. Personally I LOVE 10s for the nice tight bass you can get with them, but for the deep boomy &quot;crappy&quot; bass you probably would have wanted to get something larger with a deeper &quot;throw&quot;.

 

[Shazam]

Get a bigger enclosure for your subs. The size of the enclosure defines the &quot;hard limit&quot; of how deep your bass goes.