Car and Driver SUV Comparison Test...

[CtK]

8) gmc envoy slt
7) land rover discovery se
5) lincoln aviator
5) volvo xc90 t6
4) BMW X5 3.0i
3) Acura MDX
2) Lexus GX470
1) VW Touareg

 

[NFS4]

LOL, not surprising to see GM's craptastic Envoy (have you seen that chessy interior?) get last place

The GX470 and Touareg OWN!! It's also good to see that C&D isn't licking BMW's nut sack and Volvo's 5th place showing is more in line with my reasoning (which is why I'm perplexed as to why it got MT's SUVOTY award).

 

[mithrandir2001]

Why oh why did they choose a name like "Touareg"? It just looks wrong.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Why oh why did they choose a name like "Touareg"? It just looks wrong.

Rolls off the tongue about as good as mithrandir

 

[GTaudiophile]

Way-to-go, VW! Now, when will we see a comparison between the LS430, S500, 745Li, A8, and Phaeton? (I wouldn't be surprised if VW won that one too!)

I'm also looking forward to a ML55, X5 4.6is, Cayenne comparison!

 

[Doggiedog]

Touareg 95 points
GX 470 91 points
MDX 90 points

 

[Soybomb]

Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Why oh why did they choose a name like "Touareg"? It just looks wrong.

And you don't feel the need to question "Aviator"?!?!?!?!

Lets consult the dictionary:
\A"vi*a`tor\, n. (a) An experimenter in aviation. (b) A flying machine.
One who operates an aircraft; a pilot.
A"vi*a`tor\, n. The driver or pilot of an a["e]roplane, or heavier-than-air flying machine.

I'm anxiously awaiting the Ford Submariner and the Lincoln Astronaut now.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

The Toureg is already out?

I didn't know the Lexus GX was in the same class as the rest.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
The Toureg is already out?

I didn't know the Lexus GX was in the same class as the rest.

The GX470 is a bad ass mofo costing near $50,000. It's based off the same platform as the new 4-Runner. It's most DEFINITELY competes in this class:

http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=reviews&loc_code=index&content_code=01959260

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/preview/articles/53157/article.html

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadtests/firstdrive/78383/article.html

The Envoy can't touch this

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/preview/03.lexus.gx.470/03.lexus.gx470.int.500.jpg

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
The Toureg is already out?

I didn't know the Lexus GX was in the same class as the rest.

The GX470 is a bad ass mofo costing near $50,000. It's based off the same platform as the new 4-Runner. It's most DEFINITELY competes in this class:

http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=reviews&loc_code=index&content_code=01959260

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/preview/articles/53157/article.html

The Envoy can't touch this


http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/preview/03.lexus.gx.470/03.lexus.gx470.int.500.jpg

The GX470 they tested was like $53K!

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

The GX470 they tested was like $53K!

How much was the VW?

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

The GX470 they tested was like $53K!

How much was the VW?

I don't think they had a price on it since it wasn't being sold but figure high $40s. VW also had it airfreighted in from Germany just for the competition.

 

[Dragnov]

Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Why oh why did they choose a name like "Touareg"? It just looks wrong.

How the hell do you pronounce it?

 

[NFS4]

Nevermind, it was $46,500:

http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddriver/comparisontests/2003/january/0301_comparo_bradsher.xml

No wonder the GX 470 was so expensive, look at this:

It also packs a ne plus ultra price tag, especially when loaded to the gills as was our $53,435 prototype, with $5475 worth of unnecessary DVD video, Mark Levinson audio, and Lexus Link telephone gear.

I'm guessing that's a rear DVD entertainment system. Drop all of that sh!t and you have a more "respectable" price of $47,960

 

[CtK]

the Lexus and Acura has the nicest interior!!!!
the VW has like a million buttons too cluttered!!!

gm thinks the more wood they put in the car the better it will look
freakin idiots!!!

land rovers interior looks like it was design 500 years ago

 

[LittleWolf]

Originally posted by: CtK
the Lexus and Acura has the nicest interior!!!!
the VW has like a million buttons too cluttered!!!

gm thinks the more wood they put in the car the better it will look
freakin idiots!!!

land rovers interior looks like it was design 500 years ago

I think the Acura interior looks rather chintzy with the fake wood and all. The Lexus was passable. The VW kicks all their butt, both onroad and offroad... Cool

And the Touareg is pronounced as "twa-reg"

-j

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: LittleWolf
I think the Acura interior looks rather chintzy with the fake wood and all. The Lexus was passable. The VW kicks all their butt, both onroad and offroad... Cool

And the Touareg is pronounced as "twa-reg"

-j

I think the official dumbed down English pronounciation is TOUR-egg.

From Autoweek:
While it lacks starlet appeal, Touareg?s looks are based on the now familiar lines of those found in the Jetta, Passat and Phaeton. Despite the name, Touareg (say TOUR-egg) is someone you want to take home to meet the family.

 

[CraigRT]

if I was going to get an SUV, I'd either get an X5 4.4 or 4.6 or a Range Rover / maybe even the Land Rover. those things are FANTASTIC off-road!!

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: CtK
the Lexus and Acura has the nicest interior!!!!
the VW has like a million buttons too cluttered!!!

gm thinks the more wood they put in the car the better it will look
freakin idiots!!!

land rovers interior looks like it was design 500 years ago

I've got an MDX and my last car was a Lexus GS so I can tell you the MDX interior is really cheap. The plastic wood is really cheap. The leather is not as nice as in Lexus. I'd say all in all, its about 75% of the luxury of a Lexus.

NFS4, if you took out all the extras of the MDX also like the Nav system, the cost will be $38k or about $10k less than the GX470. The base model of the MDX would be about $36k. The touring model is $38k. The base model is not that much different from the touring. It's only missing power seat memory, cheaper tires, roof rack, non-Blose stereo. If you paid invoice (wishful thinking) for the MDX it would be about $33k I believe. The GX is in a different class altogether I think.

 

[Nemesis77]

VW =

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: NFS4
LOL, not surprising to see GM's craptastic Envoy (have you seen that chessy interior?) get last place

The GX470 and Touareg OWN!! It's also good to see that C&D isn't licking BMW's nut sack and Volvo's 5th place showing is more in line with my reasoning (which is why I'm perplexed as to why it got MT's SUVOTY award).

I'm sure C&D'll revert to their old ways when it comes time to do a comparo between the new underpowered, understyled Z4 and other roadsters :Q

Though hyped-up cars get a little face time w/Car and Driver too it seems...just look at the 350z's comparo...still mad about that one :|

 

[CtK]

if I was going to get an SUV, I'd either get an X5 4.4 or 4.6 or a Range Rover / maybe even the Land Rover. those things are FANTASTIC off-road!!

GET THE X5!!!!! LOOKS MUCH BETTER THAN THE LAND ROVER

 

[ElFenix]

the gx470 looks very similar to the envoy from the a-pillar back. scary.

<--- doesn't like cheesy gmc interior

 

[vi edit]

The envoy, and even aviator to a lesser extent don't even really belong here. How many people shopping for an X5, a Touareg, an MDX, or a Lexus would even consider a GMC or a Lincoln? Not too many I would imagine.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: CtK

if I was going to get an SUV, I'd either get an X5 4.4 or 4.6 or a Range Rover / maybe even the Land Rover. those things are FANTASTIC off-road!!

GET THE X5!!!!! LOOKS MUCH BETTER THAN THE LAND ROVER

but unless you've taken a rover off road, you really can't appreciate just how capable these things are.. the 2002 discovery SE i was in had a VERY NICE V8 too!!!