Car Accident

mwtgg

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Well, I was on my way home from work, and the inevitable happened -- a car accident. I don't feel like drawing a schematic of the scene at this point, maybe I will at a later date.

So I was driving down a four lane (two lanes each way) road, and I move over into a dedicated straight lane. Ahead of me, in the other lane -- a left turn and straight lane, is a Chevrolet Suburban towing an enclosed trailer. I'm driving along in the right lane and I head through an intersection, here is where the left lane ends and must merge into the right lane.

This lady decides she wants my lane, so she tries to change lane mid-intersection (illegal) and is now straddling my lane and hers. Well, I had nowhere to go but into her, so my drivers side hits the side of her trailer and procedes to slam into the curb. She pulls over, and I have no choice but the pull over, so I'm stopped there. She immediately gets out of her car and starts blaming and accusing me. "Why are you in such a hurry?" "Look what you did" etc etc Her daughter, who was in a truck ahead of her and had also pulled over and starts coming at me too. She calls her father, who was on a motorcycle ahead of them and is now at their house. She says "Some asshole hit mom" and back he comes to the scene. I took offense at what she said, so I said something to her mom and she says "Well, she calls 'em as she seems 'em". Instead of lashing out, I keep my cool. I call the police and she gets snippy and says "Yeah, that's a good idea."

While waiting for the police to arrive on the scene, she and her daughter are still accusing me. Once again, I keep my cool. The police finally arrive. As soon as the officer pulled up, her attitude took a complete 180. She was still blaming me, but was not being as aggressive. Paperwork gets filled out. Yadda yadda... The cop explains to us that at this point, neither of us are at fault. Mind boggling I know. He said I was probably doing in excess of speed limit, and that she merged at an inappropriate time. However, neither of us were issued citations.

So to make a long story even longer: my car is f'ed, her trailer is almost pristine, and both of us walk away with no citations.

Now, what everyone really wants to see (camera phone, sorry):
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Regs

Lifer
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2 door panels, fender, paint job...

I estimate at least 3-6k.

If like what happen to my sis's mazda when they had to take everything off the car to paint it. That was a 5k job in of itself.
 

BriGy86

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They probably can't prove you were speeding but may be able to prove she changed lanes illegally.
 

Tiamat

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Did you suffer any injuries? Doesnt sound like it, good that you are ok. Hopefully the insurance company sees it the right way.
 

Number1

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The truck and trailer where in the left lane?
The left lane was ending?
you where passing them in the right lane?
You're wondering why you ended up on the loosing end of the deal?
 

Zenmervolt

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While technically it's her fault, why on earth weren't you paying enough attention to see that coming? Was it worth your trouble to not brake and let her in front of you?

Yes, it's her "fault" and yes, her insurance should pay, but for pete's sake, it's painfully obvious when someone's going to pull a move like she did and I'm astonished that it surprised you. Get your situational awareness up a few notches and you'll be able to avoid this in the future.

ZV
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
While technically it's her fault, why on earth weren't you paying enough attention to see that coming? Was it worth your trouble to not brake and let her in front of you?

Yes, it's her "fault" and yes, her insurance should pay, but for pete's sake, it's painfully obvious when someone's going to pull a move like she did and I'm astonished that it surprised you. Get your situational awareness up a few notches and you'll be able to avoid this in the future.

ZV

I knew this crowd would come into town, and I guess I set myself up for it. Look, hindsight is always 20/20. It happened much faster than I explained it. She's moving into my lane, and I suppose I was either in her blind spot, or she's a dumbass, and just moved on in anyway.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
While technically it's her fault, why on earth weren't you paying enough attention to see that coming? Was it worth your trouble to not brake and let her in front of you?

Yes, it's her "fault" and yes, her insurance should pay, but for pete's sake, it's painfully obvious when someone's going to pull a move like she did and I'm astonished that it surprised you. Get your situational awareness up a few notches and you'll be able to avoid this in the future.

ZV

I knew this crowd would come into town, and I guess I set myself up for it. Look, hindsight is always 20/20. It happened much faster than I explained it. She's moving into my lane, and I suppose I was either in her blind spot, or she's a dumbass, and just moved on in anyway.


How close were the two of you to the end of the merge/lane
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
While technically it's her fault, why on earth weren't you paying enough attention to see that coming? Was it worth your trouble to not brake and let her in front of you?

Yes, it's her "fault" and yes, her insurance should pay, but for pete's sake, it's painfully obvious when someone's going to pull a move like she did and I'm astonished that it surprised you. Get your situational awareness up a few notches and you'll be able to avoid this in the future.

ZV

I knew this crowd would come into town, and I guess I set myself up for it. Look, hindsight is always 20/20. It happened much faster than I explained it. She's moving into my lane, and I suppose I was either in her blind spot, or she's a dumbass, and just moved on in anyway.


How close were the two of you to the end of the merge/lane

Well, the sign stating the left lane ends is posted right after you cross the intersection, and she was changed lanes mid-intersection, so there were several hundred feet left to go before the lanes merged.
 

Compnewbie01

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I had something similar happen to me on the freeway. I was just driving along in the left lane until this other car merged into me. I did not notice the other car moving into my lane until I was already alongside the other car and had about 1/4 seconds to react. Sure enough I got scraped up and had to pull over to exchange information. The lady blamed me saying that my truck was fishtailing and that the back end slid into the side of her car. I don't even know how that is possible, but luckily an eye witness called up a few days later (saw decals on work truck) and said they saw it it happen and that I was 100% in the clear. Her insurance just paid for the damages and it was a done deal.

So I hope you are as lucky and that the insurance companies are able to see what really happened. Usually the damage to both vehicles tells a story itself. One thing I noticed right off the bat was that your front-right tire popped. I assume this happened when you got pushed into the curb. How would you have hit the curb that hard if it was YOU that hit her? Your story + the damage = you got hit and pushed off the road. At least that is how I see it.
 

S Freud

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You say hindsight it 20/20. But to me it seems too obvious to hit the breaks and allow her in. I don't see how it could have happened that she changed lanes, you didn't see her doing so and then just let her come over and hit your car.

I wasn't there so there are numerous things that could have come into play I don't know, but this is just how I am reading it.
 

mobobuff

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Yeah, I have to admit, why didn't you just hit the brakes? Unless there was traffic on your ass.
 
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Originally posted by: S Freud
You say hindsight it 20/20. But to me it seems too obvious to hit the breaks and allow her in. I don't see how it could have happened that she changed lanes, you didn't see her doing so and then just let her come over and hit your car.

I wasn't there so there are numerous things that could have come into play I don't know, but this is just how I am reading it.

I could see hindsight 20/20 issues and defensive driving and all that, but the lady was in the wrong for changing lanes mid-intersection, especially as the OP said later on in this thread that the lanes didn't merge for a few hundred feet after the intersection. Of course, he shouldn't have been in her blind-spot or should have sped passed or slowed down to avoid an accident. In the end, we all make mistakes and sometimes it sucks, but it's part of life. Let the insurance companies deal with it, as someone else said, the damage will show who's telling the truth.?
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: mwtgg
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
While technically it's her fault, why on earth weren't you paying enough attention to see that coming? Was it worth your trouble to not brake and let her in front of you?

Yes, it's her "fault" and yes, her insurance should pay, but for pete's sake, it's painfully obvious when someone's going to pull a move like she did and I'm astonished that it surprised you. Get your situational awareness up a few notches and you'll be able to avoid this in the future.

ZV
I knew this crowd would come into town, and I guess I set myself up for it. Look, hindsight is always 20/20. It happened much faster than I explained it. She's moving into my lane, and I suppose I was either in her blind spot, or she's a dumbass, and just moved on in anyway.
Excellent job ignoring the parts where I said that I agreed that it was her fault.

However, even though it was her fault, a Suburban with an enclosed trailed simply doesn't go whipping from lane to lane. While I'm sure if didn't happen slowly, you should have been able to reasonably predict it and even if you hadn't predicted it, I can't see how you didn't have time to react unless she either swerved violently into your lane (unlikely) or you were on "autopilot" and not paying full attention to the road.

Even though it's her fault, given where the damage is on your car you had time to hit the brakes and avoid the incident had you been paying more attention.

What it looks like to me, even from your clarifications, is that you noticed her coming over and rather than backing off, you called her bluff and maintained your position.

Legally, technically, she's at fault. But at the end of the day, you're the one whose car is out of commission. Sometimes the cost of being right just isn't worth it.

ZV