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Cant write to an NTFS portable hard drive with vista x64, it may have been formatted in XP-32

Maximilian

Maximilian

Lifer
What can i do to make it writable as well as readable for both vista and xp? I thought NTFS was NTFS but ive read in some places XP NTFS drives have problems being read by vista sometimes, is this true? Or is there another problem?

Its a 250GB WD passport drive, it was originally FAT32 with all my data on it, but then i changed it to NTFS to avoid the 4GB file limit. Im pretty sure this was done in XP.
 
You really havent stated the problem yet, 'cant write' is pretty vauge. Do you get an actual write error, an access denied, or ?
 
I get "Disk is write-protected, remove the write protection or use another disk". As far as i know there is no hardware write protection on this drive an if there is i never enabled it, and i never enabled it in software either.
 
Originally posted by: Soviet
I get "Disk is write-protected, remove the write protection or use another disk". As far as i know there is no hardware write protection on this drive an if there is i never enabled it, and i never enabled it in software either.
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Weird. Have you tried seeting permission on the drive itself to 'everyone' (right click on the drive in my computer and then properties/security)

Bill
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Soviet
I get "Disk is write-protected, remove the write protection or use another disk". As far as i know there is no hardware write protection on this drive an if there is i never enabled it, and i never enabled it in software either.
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Weird. Have you tried seeting permission on the drive itself to 'everyone' (right click on the drive in my computer and then properties/security)

Bill
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Permissions seem fine, i dont entirely understand them but the only people who cant write to or modify the drive are the "users". The administrators have all permissions except "full control" and when i try to give full control i get a "cannot do this disk is write-protected" or something like that.
 
Originally posted by: Soviet
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Soviet
I get "Disk is write-protected, remove the write protection or use another disk". As far as i know there is no hardware write protection on this drive an if there is i never enabled it, and i never enabled it in software either.
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Weird. Have you tried seeting permission on the drive itself to 'everyone' (right click on the drive in my computer and then properties/security)

Bill
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Permissions seem fine, i dont entirely understand them but the only people who cant write to or modify the drive are the "users". The administrators have all permissions except "full control" and when i try to give full control i get a "cannot do this disk is write-protected" or something like that.
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Unless you running from an elevated command prompt (your not most likey) your token is one of a user, and you just saidy ou took rights away from users, so thats the problem.

Bill

 
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Soviet
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Soviet
I get "Disk is write-protected, remove the write protection or use another disk". As far as i know there is no hardware write protection on this drive an if there is i never enabled it, and i never enabled it in software either.
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Weird. Have you tried seeting permission on the drive itself to 'everyone' (right click on the drive in my computer and then properties/security)

Bill
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Permissions seem fine, i dont entirely understand them but the only people who cant write to or modify the drive are the "users". The administrators have all permissions except "full control" and when i try to give full control i get a "cannot do this disk is write-protected" or something like that.
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Unless you running from an elevated command prompt (your not most likey) your token is one of a user, and you just saidy ou took rights away from users, so thats the problem.

Bill
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But im an adminstrator no? How do i give users the rights to modify and write to this drive? My vista account is an adminstrator so i should be able to.

The exact error i get when trying to give permission is "An error occurred while applying security information to: H\$RECYCLE.BIN\desktop.ini The media is write protected"
 
The exact error i get when trying to give permission is "An error occurred while applying security information to: H\$RECYCLE.BIN\desktop.ini The media is write protected"
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Take ownership or run explorer from an elevated command prompt. By default, even tho you are an administrator various rights are stipped from your token. This means malware running as 'you' are very limited in what they can do. When you see those UAC prompts it means your changing from your limited use toke to your full admin token (which means code running as that can do pretty much anything to the system)).

Bill
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
The exact error i get when trying to give permission is "An error occurred while applying security information to: H\$RECYCLE.BIN\desktop.ini The media is write protected"
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Take ownership or run explorer from an elevated command prompt. By default, even tho you are an administrator various rights are stipped from your token. This means malware running as 'you' are very limited in what they can do. When you see those UAC prompts it means your changing from your limited use toke to your full admin token (which means code running as that can do pretty much anything to the system)).

Bill
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I have had UAC disabled since i installed vista months ago, how do i run an elevated command prompt?
 
I have had UAC disabled since i installed vista months ago, how do i run an elevated command prompt?
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Aww well in that case you should read up on security and permissions. Since you know better than those of us who told you it was a bad idea, time to put that knowledge to use.

Bill
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
I have had UAC disabled since i installed vista months ago, how do i run an elevated command prompt?
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Aww well in that case you should read up on security and permissions. Since you know better than those of us who told you it was a bad idea, time to put that knowledge to use.

Bill
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So if UAC was enabled this problem would go away?
 
So if UAC was enabled this problem would go away?
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I'm not 100% sure but I believe so. With UAC enabled it would have popped up a window asking if it was ok to write to the files and when you said yes it would have elevated your security token to allow the action.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
So if UAC was enabled this problem would go away?
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I'm not 100% sure but I believe so. With UAC enabled it would have popped up a window asking if it was ok to write to the files and when you said yes it would have elevated your security token to allow the action.
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I turned on UAC and i still get the write protected error without a prompt to elevate my token.
 
Then something else is the issue, Windows probably really thinks that it's a write protected disk for some reason.
 
Gonna give this one last bump before i resort to sticking the drive in the laptop and transferring everything over to it via pen drive, may not be an option actually considering the size of the things that need transferred.
 
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Then something else is the issue, Windows probably really thinks that it's a write protected disk for some reason.
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Na, its a permissions issue. But I jump out of threads when UAC or SystemRestore is turned off. If they are smart enough to do that, they can be smart enough to fix the problem themselves 😉
 
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Then something else is the issue, Windows probably really thinks that it's a write protected disk for some reason.
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Na, its a permissions issue. But I jump out of threads when UAC or SystemRestore is turned off. If they are smart enough to do that, they can be smart enough to fix the problem themselves 😉
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I dont think its permissions at all.

Im going to try what this guy tried.
 
Originally posted by: Soviet
Originally posted by: bsobel
Originally posted by: Nothinman
Then something else is the issue, Windows probably really thinks that it's a write protected disk for some reason.
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Na, its a permissions issue. But I jump out of threads when UAC or SystemRestore is turned off. If they are smart enough to do that, they can be smart enough to fix the problem themselves 😉
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I dont think its permissions at all.

Im going to try what this guy tried.
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Formatting the drive? That certainly should fix it (it will reset the permissions to the default values which should work for you)
 
But that's not a fix at all, all you really accomplished was resetting the permissions by the most destructive way possible.
 
Uh no, it might be problematic via explorer but you should be able to force things with takeown and icacls from the cli.
 
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