Can't tell the difference between SB 2.7Ghz w/SSD, and SB 2.3Ghz w/5400RPM HDD

[VirtualLarry]

Call me crazy, but I cannot really tell much difference in day-to-day usage, between my G630 (2.7Ghz Sandy Bridge dual-core) with 120GB SSD, and my SB 2.3Ghz laptop with a 5400RPM laptop HD.

Granted, I have software FDE running, which I have found seems to limit I/O speeds, meaning that it masks much of speed advantage of an SSD.

 

[tweakboy]

If that laptop gets a SSD it will come back to life...... if you cant tell the diff from hard drive to SSD, then we got a big problem on our hands my friend. What about boot up ? You see a difference there ? gl

 

[Prey2big]

 

[Smoblikat]

SSD's are a gimmick, they dont actually do anything.

 

[BrightCandle]

On my Core 2 Duo (2.4Ghz) laptop with a 7200 rpm WD Black 2.5" HDD eclipse will take about 20 seconds to load. On an eSata attached Intel 80GB X25-M SSD it takes about 10 seconds.

On my desktop with SB-E and an m4 512GB SSD it takes about 5 seconds.

Compilation and test of my current scala program takes 59 seconds on the laptop with a HDD. 45 seconds on the laptop with the SSD. 11 seconds on the desktop.

There is a significant speed up from even a basic SSD and again significant performance improvement from a much faster CPU. Not just measurably but significantly in terms of usable performance.

 

[Mfusick]

Pure lulz in this thread

 

[lehtv]

That's probably because your day-to-day usage just isn't that demanding.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I should mention that a full disk malwarebytes scan does complete in about half or less time, on the rig with the SSD. So that is noticable, but I only do that once a month or less.

My comment referred mostly to day-to-day activities (mostly web browsing these forums), of which a HDD apparently doesn't hold me back any.

 

[groberts101]

That's probably because your day-to-day usage just isn't that demanding.

Yeah.. that's about the size of it too. Which seems pretty obvious by the fact that we all had to nearly twist his arm into even buying an SSD just this last year.. not to mention endure all the "SSD isn't that much better than a fast HDD" posts. 😀

His biggest issue with shooting his SSD's potential down into the "HDD dirt".. and he fully knows it by now.. is that damned encryption software. 🙄

PS. when you live in ram.. SSD alone just isn't going to rock your world.. is what it all boils down to.

 

[Koing]

Yeah.. that's about the size of it too. Which seems pretty obvious by the fact that we all had to nearly twist his arm into even buying an SSD just this last year.. not to mention endure all the "SSD isn't that much better than a fast HDD" posts. 😀

His biggest issue with shooting his SSD's potential down into the "HDD dirt".. and he fully knows it by now.. is that damned encryption software. 🙄

PS. when you live in ram.. SSD alone just isn't going to rock your world.. is what it all boils down to.

Correcto!

If you load a lot of images or a heavy duty application the first time you load it you will notice a big difference. Once it's in ram it won't load any faster.

It should make your system feel that much snappier and faster when loading apps, importing/ exporting images. I have the Samsung 830 256GB SSD in my C2D 2.1GHz Macbook.

Koing

 

[Zap]

In other news, most average computer users probably wouldn't notice a difference between a Core i3-3225 and Core i7-3770K.

 

[raildogg]

In other news, most average computer users probably wouldn't notice a difference between a Core i3-3225 and Core i7-3770K.

LOL, being average can have its advantages too.

I can tell a difference between using two laptops using similar hardware but one has an SSD and the other does not. The immediate difference is the higher noise level of the hard drive vs the SSD. The constant noise of the hard drive is apparent, especially when one has used an SSD. The bootups along with Windows update installations are much faster with an SSD. With an SSD, the boot up to the point where the system is useable is almost immediate, whereas with a hard drive, there is a delay when the desktop shows up. Of course, most people only boot up once when they are using their computers.

When when has booted up and installed the Windows updates, there isn't much difference when using the computer between a HD and SSD. If one is surfing the web, writing documents, doing research, then the benefits of an SSD may not be needed. I actually ordered my SSD for my desktop but did not install it for 2 months. Why? I did not really need the extra speed. But when my hard drive started acting funny (supposedly), I decided to install it. I also did not want to install the SSD because I did not want to get spoiled by the speed. I must say that now after I've used an SSD(s), I do prefer to have it on my computers. So I guess I was spoiled a bit. Argh!

Your storage capacity needs have to be considered. Since I don't use much space on my hard drives, I figured a a lower capacity SSD might be more beneficial than a larger hard drive.

 

[poohbear]

It loads Windows up @ the same speed? Yes i think i will "call u crazy."

 

[Tsavo]

We need an "Oh no, not this shit again" emoticon.

 

[mv2devnull]

That's probably because your day-to-day usage just isn't that demanding.

That, and what details he does pay attention to / observe. Being unable to tell a difference is not a sin (unless it is about the haircut of the woman).

And yet, differences are crucial for this thread. Larry wrote: "HDD does not hold me back". He could have written: "SDD did not help", but he did not. Positive stance is a good thing.

That does not force the rest of us to do the same things as he does, or to be happy.

 

[beginner99]

Granted, I have software FDE running, which I have found seems to limit I/O speeds, meaning that it masks much of speed advantage of an SSD.

really? like we did not already know that. certain ssds used (or mabye even still do) perform worse than hdds with encryption.

My comment referred mostly to day-to-day activities (mostly web browsing these forums), of which a HDD apparently doesn't hold me back any.

Yeah browsing anandtech and playing farmville is extremely heavy on I/O. OMG. Some post really make we wonder...

Like saying "windows aero does not run faster with my new $600 GPU! My $600 gpu sucks!" OMG

 

[VirtualLarry]

really? like we did not already know that. certain ssds used (or mabye even still do) perform worse than hdds with encryption.

I did not think that this was common knowledge. Are there any articles about this? Because I believe it's true too, SSDs are just as slow as HDDs, when using FDE.

Like saying "windows aero does not run faster with my new $600 GPU! My $600 gpu sucks!" OMG

It had better run faster. I had to add a discrete GPU, because my Intel HD graphics on my G630 was not fast enough for Skype.