Can't get Powerdvd to work (error code F4D41436)

[Mooncalf]

I just installed version 3, rebooted, then installed the XP patch and rebooted again. If I put in a dvd it brings up a DVD error code F4D41436 saying "the tv out port of your display card is not working properly". Clicking on detailed says "This copy protected disc can not be played when the TV out function is enabled."

Two questions, one being how do I disable my tv out port if it isn't being used and there is no place I can find that says that it is enabled or gives the option to disable out. The other being, that means even if I wanted to use my pc dvd drive and watch a movie on a tv that I can't?

Specs are

8RDA+ using onboard sound 2.03 drivers
Lite-on 16x LTD-163
Geforce3 Ti200 Visiontek 41.09 drivers
XP Pro SP1
DirectX 9

 

[Mooncalf]

Anyone have any input? I can't get a reply from nVidia, PowerDVD, or VisionTek and this still isn't working.

I have since uninstalled and installed version 4 and tried it with and without the patches for that all yielding the same result.

 

[onza]

just use windvd if you can, i had problems with powerdvd changed to windvd, and its works great

 

[Mooncalf]

Just got an interesting reply from Nvidia. They state

The 41.09 and future drivers have more stringent checks in the driver to comply with the latest Macrovision requirements. If the TV encoder does not support Macrovision, you will get the "Macrovision Distribution Failed" error message or a similar message depending on which DVD software player you are using. The BT868 and Conexant CX25870 TV encoders do not support Macrovision. If your graphics card is equipped with one of these TV encoders, then it will not support DVD playback with our 41.09 drivers and above.

Nvidia sells GPU to leading add-in card manufacturers. We have no control over the TV encoder they put on the graphics card. We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause.

Apparently this only affects PowerDVD as I asked if the 41.09 drivers will work fine with their NVDVD software and their reply was

Thank you for your email. NVDVD will work with the 41.09 drivers. Please make sure you have uninstalled PowerDVD before you install the trial version of NVDVD. The trial version of NVDVD will work for a period of 15 days so that you can verify compatibility with your system.

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So I can never watch a dvd on my computer again unless I stop using PowerDVD?

 

[VicodiN]

WinDVD's worth the time and effort if you really need DVD's to play on your computer... Have never had a problem with it since I started using it...

 

[Mooncalf]

Except I don't want to nor have the money to purchase another program when I have one.

 

[weeber]

Yes I know this is an old thread, but I just ran across this problem myself when I updated my Nvidia drivers and looked here for answers, only to find there wasn't any. However, I just downloaded a patch for PowerDVD 4.0, and now all is well. Everything seems to play fine again.

So anyone looking for a solution to this problem, head over to Cyberlink and get the latest patch. It should fix you right up.

 

[Mooncalf]

The patch had no effect for me and others I heard from regarding the issue I described above.

Were your causes the same as mine, having a video card that contained a non-Macrovision approved tv encoder chipset or something else?

 

[VivienM]

I know this is an old thread, but I have the same issue with my VisionTek GF3 Ti500 and the NVIDIA 44.09 (or something... whatever the latest is) drivers.

Is there any fix for this, short of ripping out the video card and buying something from ATI? It's sad, I had delayed my video card replacement since this one is still Good Enough for what I do, and was considering the 5900, and now NVIDIA does this. I had a card that played DVDs just fine... I upgrade drivers bunch of times, etc, and couple of months later, when I go to play a DVD, it's broken.

What email address did you use to contact NVIDIA? If I'm going to buy an expensive ATI card as a result of them, I sure want them to know what slimy tactics caused me to do that... and I used to think that only ATI had bad drivers.

 

[Mooncalf]

No fix as long as nVidia won't institute proper Macrovision checks which they state will remain as is. If your problem isn't caused by having a non-Macrovision approved tv encoder chipset for the tv out function then this particular issue may not be your cause and therefore may be hope for yours.

End user support

 

[WhiteKnight77]

I just had the same problem with my new DVD-ROM and a GF3 Ti 500. I ended up reverting back to the 30.82 drivers and I could watch DVDs on all 3 DVD programs where the copyright protection would not let it run on any with the 41.09 drivers.

 

[VivienM]

Originally posted by: Mooncalf
No fix as long as nVidia won't institute proper Macrovision checks which they state will remain as is. If your problem isn't caused by having a non-Macrovision approved tv encoder chipset for the tv out function then this particular issue may not be your cause and therefore may be hope for yours.q]

No, I have the same problem as this issue... The TV out chip on my card is one of the two that is listed above in this thread as one of the bad ones.

Is there a list anywhere of what cards contain those two chips?

 

[VivienM]

Originally posted by: WhiteKnight77
I just had the same problem with my new DVD-ROM and a GF3 Ti 500. I ended up reverting back to the 30.82 drivers and I could watch DVDs on all 3 DVD programs where the copyright protection would not let it run on any with the 41.09 drivers.

I wonder how wipespread this particular issue is... is your GF3 Ti500 VisionTek too, like mine?

Personally, I like running the latest drivers for everything, so knowing that I can't go past 40.xx NVIDIA drivers without breaking the DVD functionality (which, mind you, I don't use regularly... but I don't have a standalone DVD player, so it's this or watching DVDs on my laptop, bleh) is a nuisance. If the ATI AiW9800 Pro was in stores, this might just be the incentive to make me open my wallet... maybe I should just get a 9700, as the pricing has dropped (in anticipation of the 9800 AiW card?), and it should still be a big improvement over my GF3 Ti500.

 

[Mooncalf]

Regarding the list of cards that use those two chips, sorry I don't know of one of the top of my head (never looked).

As far as I know, it affects any card that uses a non-Macrovision approved tv out chipset though I don't know how common/rare that is. It does seem to affect a lot (no idea if it is minority/majority) of VisionTek's GF3 Ti line. Mine is a VisionTek GF3 Ti200.

If it is important for you to use both the latest drivers and have dvd playback then unfortunately your only choice is to buy a new card. nVidia has been aware of the result of their stance since December, has received numerous complaints, replies from Macrovision as well as some publicity on the issue but doesn't have any interest in changing the policy.

 

[VivienM]

Originally posted by: Mooncalf

If it is important for you to use both the latest drivers and have dvd playback then unfortunately your only choice is to buy a new card. nVidia has been aware of the result of their stance since December, has received numerous complaints, replies from Macrovision as well as some publicity on the issue but doesn't have any interest in changing the policy.

Grrrrreat, then I guess I'll be looking at buying a new card at some point before September... now the question is, what to get? As much as I've generally distrusted ATI on drivers, I really really don't feel like rewarding NVIDIA's bastardliness by buying a new high end card from them... if anything, I'd rather spend money on FedExing my GF3 Ti500 to Jen-Hsun Huang and asking him why the hell he thinks his company has the right to write drivers that remove features from my 1.5-year old video card.

Time to head over to the video card forum for advice...

 

[WhiteKnight77]

Yes I have a VisionTek GF3. I can run Splinter Cell with those drivers and the game still looks as good as it does with the 41.09 drivers. I have friends that still use 29.xx drivers for their GF cards.

People have been having problems with Macromedia SafeDisk copyright protection since Ghost Recon came out. Seems that people can have problems installing games and running said games if using a burner and not a CD-ROM. This does hold true with older optical drives, but I have run both GR and SC with a Lite-On DVD 16x and a Lite-On 52x 42x 52x CD-RW that I bought within the last 5 months without any problems. I would rather see SafeDisk be gotten rid of than having to get a different card myself.

 

[VivienM]

Originally posted by: WhiteKnight77
Yes I have a VisionTek GF3. I can run Splinter Cell with those drivers and the game still looks as good as it does with the 41.09 drivers. I have friends that still use 29.xx drivers for their GF cards.

People have been having problems with Macromedia SafeDisk copyright protection since Ghost Recon came out. Seems that people can have problems installing games and running said games if using a burner and not a CD-ROM. This does hold true with older optical drives, but I have run both GR and SC with a Lite-On DVD 16x and a Lite-On 52x 42x 52x CD-RW that I bought within the last 5 months without any problems. I would rather see SafeDisk be gotten rid of than having to get a different card myself.

SafeDisk (Disc?) is a totally different type of copy protection than this Macrovision stuff here... This stuff here has to do with DVDs, and no doubt the movie industry and such is insisting that NVIDIA block things without this macrovision feature...

I guess I could go back to older drivers, but... maybe I'm really looking for an excuse to justify a new high-end ATI card? ;-)

 

[WhiteKnight77]

Macromedia has different kinds of SafeDisk copyright protection that is in use. It's still a pain no matter what. If you want a new card, get one, I will one of these days myself. Just don't know when.

 

[VivienM]

Originally posted by: WhiteKnight77
Macromedia has different kinds of SafeDisk copyright protection that is in use. It's still a pain no matter what. If you want a new card, get one, I will one of these days myself. Just don't know when.

Macrovision, not Macromedia. Macromedia makes stuff like Dreamweaver, Flash, etc, while Macrovision is the company that makes copy protection gizmos.

 

[WhiteKnight77]

Yes you are right and I thought I had it right in my other post too. I don't know where my head is at tonight other than wishing the rain would stop.