cant brake 1000 in 3dmark05, fx5900se vcard, this normal ?

[ZL1]

Hi

guys Im curious about something
I have a fx5900se and I get about 16k in 3dmark2001se, about 5600 in 3dmark03 and about 993-4 in 05 🙁
cant even break 1000

is this normal for the 5900se ? (manuf is e-vga, clock is 400/700, system P4C 2.4@3.2)



Thank you
Dan

 

[Malak]

The FX line was crap, especially in directx 9 environments. Don't expect much.

 

[ZL1]

Originally posted by: malak
The FX line was crap, especially in directx 9 environments. Don't expect much.

how nice

 

[jadbox1]

I get 3890 with a 9600xt at stock in 3dmark03
shouldnt i get a higher score than the 5900se
I have an a64 3000+
gigabyte nforce3 250
wd 160 gb

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: jadbox1
I get 3890 with a 9600xt at stock in 3dmark03
shouldnt i get a higher score than the 5900se
I have an a64 3000+
gigabyte nforce3 250
wd 160 gb

3890 is about right for a 9600xt, I get 4062 with:-

sempron 3100
sapphire radeon 9600 xt
gigabyte k8ns pro

Actually I don't know why people are still using
3dmark 2003 because 3dmark 2005 is more modern.

With 3dmark 2005 my:-

6600 gt scores 3237
9700 pro scores 2124
5900xt scores 1005
9600 XT scores 1629

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: ZL1

Originally posted by: malak
The FX line was crap, especially in directx 9 environments. Don't expect much.

how nice

But partly true.
The FX series DOES suck at DX9 work, because of what it does inside.
It can't be changed, it's a fact that in full DX9 situations, it sucks.
In terms of gaming, it will usually do fine however (unless the game uses DX9).
Stick to DX8/8.1 modes and you will be OK in terms of performance.

 

[ZL1]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: ZL1

Originally posted by: malak
The FX line was crap, especially in directx 9 environments. Don't expect much.

how nice

But partly true.
The FX series DOES suck at DX9 work, because of what it does inside.
It can't be changed, it's a fact that in full DX9 situations, it sucks.
In terms of gaming, it will usually do fine however (unless the game uses DX9).
Stick to DX8/8.1 modes and you will be OK in terms of performance.

my point was only that it wasnt my question
I know the NV3x has a DX9 problem and it bugs me, but I cant afford a nicer card at this time
I was merely curious if 1000 is a normal score for these cards (not like I said: "man Im pissed, I can only get 1000 with my super 5900" 🙂)


Thanks
Dan

 

[ZL1]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: jadbox1
I get 3890 with a 9600xt at stock in 3dmark03
shouldnt i get a higher score than the 5900se
I have an a64 3000+
gigabyte nforce3 250
wd 160 gb

3890 is about right for a 9600xt, I get 4062 with:-

sempron 3100
sapphire radeon 9600 xt
gigabyte k8ns pro

Actually I don't know why people are still using
3dmark 2003 because 3dmark 2005 is more modern.

With 3dmark 2005 my:-

6600 gt scores 3237
9700 pro scores 2124
5900xt scores 1005
9600 XT scores 1629

Thank you, by the way what speed is your 5900xt at ?


Thanks
Dan

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: ZL1

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: jadbox1
I get 3890 with a 9600xt at stock in 3dmark03
shouldnt i get a higher score than the 5900se
I have an a64 3000+
gigabyte nforce3 250
wd 160 gb

3890 is about right for a 9600xt, I get 4062 with:-

sempron 3100
sapphire radeon 9600 xt
gigabyte k8ns pro

Actually I don't know why people are still using
3dmark 2003 because 3dmark 2005 is more modern.

With 3dmark 2005 my:-

6600 gt scores 3237
9700 pro scores 2124
5900xt scores 1005
9600 XT scores 1629

Thank you, by the way what speed is your 5900xt at ?


Thanks
Dan

I don't overclock any of my hardware so my 5900 XT is running at 390mhz gpu and 700mhz memory. The 71.?? drivers provide the best 3dmark 2005 score even for the 5900 XT although the increase isn't as big as with my 6600 GT.

 

[daveybrat]

I get about 990 in 3Dmark05 with my MSI 5900XT card when it was in this computer. That was all at default speeds, no overclocking and i think the 66.93 drivers.

So unfortunately, your score is accurate. Which is why i upgraded to my new 6800 card.

But don't feel bad that your card doesn't score well in a benchmark. I still use my 5900XT in my second pc and it runs all my games fine. The only game that treats it as directx 8 hardware is Half-life 2.

🙂

 

[ZL1]

Originally posted by: daveybrat
I get about 990 in 3Dmark05 with my MSI 5900XT card when it was in this computer. That was all at default speeds, no overclocking and i think the 66.93 drivers.

So unfortunately, your score is accurate. Which is why i upgraded to my new 6800 card.

But don't feel bad that your card doesn't score well in a benchmark. I still use my 5900XT in my second pc and it runs all my games fine. The only game that treats it as directx 8 hardware is Half-life 2.

🙂

oh I dont feel bad, I dont even game that much
I used to run this machine with a tnt2 card, I upgraded because the tnt looked funny on a p4c800-e board 🙂
but I guess a 6800 would be nice 🙂
OT: did you oc your cpu ? Im considering an upgrade to 3.0C


nemesismk2 - 71 drivers ? I can only find 66.93 on nvidia


Thanks
Dan

PS by the way the scores I had in OP were not accurate, they were at stock 5900se speeds, for some reason the OC would drop after a restart, odd because I did check the "apply oc at win start" box
will update new scores with oc and new cpu oc in a few, want to try new drivers as well, I was running 61.77 drivers, havent played with the machine in about a year 🙂

 

[rise]

i had a 5900xt i think used to get 1800 ish with a p4 2.4c. i know your 'o3 scores were in line, i never ran '05 on the 5900 too much, too painful, lol.

i use the 66.76 drivers now but used the 66.93 forever. the 66.76 are under beta on nvidia sites and there is a sticky at the top of vid forum for all driver releases.

 

[Mattd46612]

It could always be worse.... like having a FX5500 256mb that scores you 280

 

[McArra]

nemesismk2 - 71 drivers ? I can only find 66.93 on nvidia

Have a look at the sticky in this forum, has lots of drivers. One of the best set is VXG 71.20 drivers, have a look at them!

 

[Sc4freak]

Heheh... My overclocked X300 gets 1483 in '05.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: ZL1

Originally posted by: malak
The FX line was crap, especially in directx 9 environments. Don't expect much.

how nice

But partly true.
The FX series DOES suck at DX9 work, because of what it does inside.
It can't be changed, it's a fact that in full DX9 situations, it sucks.
In terms of gaming, it will usually do fine however (unless the game uses DX9).
Stick to DX8/8.1 modes and you will be OK in terms of performance.

yes anand has a a vry informative article somewhere in the video section as to why NV3x was so bad at DX9

here is said article what went wrong with NV3x

 

[ZL1]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: ZL1

Originally posted by: malak
The FX line was crap, especially in directx 9 environments. Don't expect much.

how nice

But partly true.
The FX series DOES suck at DX9 work, because of what it does inside.
It can't be changed, it's a fact that in full DX9 situations, it sucks.
In terms of gaming, it will usually do fine however (unless the game uses DX9).
Stick to DX8/8.1 modes and you will be OK in terms of performance.

yes anand has a a vry informative article somewhere in the video section as to why NV3x was so bad at DX9

here is said article what went wrong with NV3x

to quote myself

my point was only that it wasnt my question
I know the NV3x has a DX9 problem and it bugs me, but I cant afford a nicer card at this time
I was merely curious if 1000 is a normal score for these cards (not like I said: "man Im pissed, I can only get 1000 with my super 5900" )


Thanks
Dan

 

[imported_humey]

3d mark 2005 is dx9c tests so you will score low on them cards, i could barely run 2003 on my old ti 4600 as it was dx9 tests 2003 is what is suited to your card.

 

[Wolfshanze]

I had an FX5900 (vanilla... not SE) on a 3.0GHz system, and I only managed 1034 on 3DMark05... once I upgraded to the 6600GT the same system gave me 3201 on 3DMark05.

 

[fstime]

Actully the 9600XT beats every single FX card in 3dmark05.........

 

[slash196]

Originally posted by: Wolfshanze
I had an FX5900 (vanilla... not SE) on a 3.0GHz system, and I only managed 1034 on 3DMark05... once I upgraded to the 6600GT the same system gave me 3201 on 3DMark05.

Hell, my current system only manages 1116 on 3DMark03. Of course, its a 2.4 Northwood with FX5500 128MB, but still, count your lucky stars. Luckily, new system will be on the road this weekend (hopefully).

 

[Mattd46612]

just got 1775 in 3dmark03 with a fx5500 256mb