Candidate Santorum doubles down

[CallMeJoe]

Not content with the current GOP campaign against contraception, Candidate Santorum is expanding his fight to include prenatal testing, specifically amniocentesis.

CNN story link

Candidate Santorum particularly opposes amniocentesis because it "more often than not" results in abortion. I can only hope he intends to add the Kyl disclaimer, "not intended as a factual statement"

Face the Nation transcript

 

[MotF Bane]

Obama says a prayer every night that Santorum gets the nomination instead of Romney. After all, he'd like to be able to take a few months vacation instead of campaigning.

 

[ch33zw1z]

My problems with all this:

1. Nothing is ever free.
2. Just because it's "free", does mean it's required.

The doctor wanted to give my wife one with out second son, we denied it. If you're the type of person who's comfortable with the procedure, and are prepared for the results then so be it. It's a free country.

"Such a recommendation is common when any problem is detected through amniocentesis, said Santorum, who added that in such cases "we know that 90% of Down syndrome children are aborted."

Santorum needs to post supporting links. I seriously doubt the accuracy of the above quote...

 

[sandorski]

My problems with all this:

1. Nothing is ever free.
2. Just because it's "free", does mean it's required.

The doctor wanted to give my wife one with out second son, we denied it. If you're the type of person who's comfortable with the procedure, and are prepared for the results then so be it. It's a free country.

"Such a recommendation is common when any problem is detected through amniocentesis, said Santorum, who added that in such cases "we know that 90% of Down syndrome children are aborted."

Santorum needs to post supporting links. I seriously doubt the accuracy of the above quote...

No Down Syndrome Children are Aborted. Not one.

 

[ch33zw1z]

No Down Syndrome Children are Aborted. Not one.

You know this...how?

 

[JSt0rm]

You know this...how?

You wonder how he knows this but dont question sanitarium knowing 90% of all of them are aborted?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

This particular GOP race has been bizarre from day one, and I find it remarkable that the strangeness of it has really not subsided much despite the diminution of the field. Santorum seems, in fairness, to have the courage of his convictions, but the extremity of his positions is almost unbelievable. The polling jumps the President has enjoyed since this whole birth control issue raised its head pretty clearly demonstrates that the majority of Americans (including Catholics) have a rational view of these issues. Nominating a candidate with views as wacky as Santorum's will pretty much ensure a landslide re-election victory for President Obama.

 

[woodie1]

If Candidate Santorum becomes the nominee then there won't be any need for an election in November.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You wonder how he knows this but dont question sanitarium knowing 90% of all of them are aborted?

umm, I think maybe you guys are misunderstanding me. I'm directly questioning where Santorum is pulling that number from...I highly doubt the number is 90%...

I think Santorum is a religious nutjob who's just pulling stuff out of his ass, appealing directly to the conservative religious nuts.

 

[TheVrolok]

Santorum is a fucking idiot.

 

[Fern]

You wonder how he knows this but dont question sanitarium knowing 90% of all of them are aborted?

?

His post questions Santorum's figure?

(Unless the time stamp is incorrect, his edit is irrelevant.)

Fern

 

[TheVrolok]

RICK SANTORUM: Well, Bob, that's simply not true. The-- the bottom line is that a lot of prenatal tests are done to identify deformities in-- in utero and the customary procedure is to encourage abortions and in fact, prenatal testing that-- that particularly amniocentesis. I'm not talking about general prenatal care. You said prenatal care. I-- I didn't say prenatal care shouldn't be covered. We're talking about specifically prenatal testing and specifically amniocentesis, which is a-- which is a procedure that actually creates a risk of having a miscarriage when you have it and is done for the purposes of identifying maladies of a child in the womb. In-- in which in many cases and in fact most cases a physicians recommend, particularly if there's a problem, recommend abortion. We know, Bob, that ninety percent of Down syndrome children in America are aborted. So to suggest where does that come from? I have a child who has trisomy 18. Almost a hundred percent of trisomy 18 children are encouraged to be aborted. So, I know what I'm talking about here.

RICK SANTORUM: And by the way, prenatal testing was-- we had a-- we had a sonogram done there and they detected a problem. And, yes, the doctor said, you know, you-- you should consider an abortion. This is typical, Bob. This is what goes on and in-- in medical rooms around the country. And yes, prenatal testing, amniocentesis does, in fact, result more often than not in this country in abortions. That is-- that is a fact.

From the transcript.

 

[sandorski]

You know this...how?

"Children" are not Aborted.

 

[ch33zw1z]

"Children" are not Aborted.

Ah, I c.

 

[MovingTarget]

Wow, Santorum is an idiot. I thought that he might try to veer away from many of the other womens' health related issues to let the controversy die down before November, but he seems to have none of that. Whats next? Coming out against chorionic villus sampling (CVS), or school-mandated vaccinations? Fluoridation in municipal water supplies? Sheesh...

 

[TheVrolok]

Fluoridation in municipal water supplies?

Fucking nanny state!

 

[MovingTarget]

communist plot!

ftfy!

 

[TheVrolok]

ftfy!

Better dead than red!

(see what happens when you use the "C word"? Time warps!)

 

[Jhhnn]

Santorum is badly misinformed or deliberately lying, and he apparently loves to spread that misinformation around when it serves his purposes.

Had he said that 90% of fetuses were aborted when amniocentesis reveals serious fetal abnormalities, he'd probably be in the ballpark. In the vast majority of instances, however, amnio reveals no abnormalities & pregnancy proceeds in a normal fashion.

Repubs, in general, are trying to use the religious freedom angle to assert their usual anti-abortion stance, and to lump all forms of contraception other than abstinence into the same category as abortion.

Other than in very specific & limited locales, that won't help them win elections, at all. Apparently, they've become so accustomed to hearing their own rhetoric bounce back in the right wing echo chamber that they mistake it for general public sentiment, so they'll double down every time...

 

[MovingTarget]

Better dead than red!

(see what happens when you use the "C word"? Time warps!)

Soviet time travel! I knew it! It all makes sense now!

:thumbsup:

 

[manimal]

My wife spit out a little bit of red wine when she heard him talking about this. She wondered aloud how any woman would vote for that guy.



Any ladies in here support him?

 

[MotF Bane]

My wife spit out a little bit of red wine when she heard him talking about this. She wondered aloud how any woman would vote for that guy.



Any ladies in here support him?

AT has what, half a dozen females, and I'm not aware of any posting in P&N.

Also, Sarah Palin is a woman, and I'm certain she'll be voting for Santorum.

 

[kage69]

I feel bad for his little daughter, her quality of life would probably be better if the old man wasn't such an ideological nutbag.


I wonder how he reconciles all the slander and falsehoods he spews with the "morality" of his "faith"?

 

[kage69]

My wife spit out a little bit of red wine when she heard him talking about this. She wondered aloud how any woman would vote for that guy.



Any ladies in here support him?

Only the brainwashed or mildly retarded ones thankfully. I have an Ann Coulter wannabe in my office, and if she thinks he's an "ignorant douchebag" then ol Ricky is seriously hurting in the female demographic.
Women like Palin supporting him is a given, provided of course they remember to write it on their hands come election day.

 

[airdata]

Global crisis happening and candidates still focus on abortion and religion. Seriously?