Canadians in the future won't have to be literate to pass High School

Scouzer

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I'm Canadian and I know this sure isn't the case on this side of the country, but down in Nova Scotia it seems to be. I can't seem to find the link on canada.com I just got the email news, which Hotmail messes up, but here's the report:

Employer beware -- this Nova Scotia Grade 12 graduate is illiterate

Brian Flinn
Southam Newspapers; Halifax Daily News


Wednesday, September 25, 2002
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Some of the class of 2009 won't be able to read the fine print on their diplomas.

The Nova Scotia government plans to introduce standardized literacy tests for Grades 6, 9 and 12.

But it won't stop people from graduating if they fail the last one.

Deputy Education Minister Dennis Cochrane said some graduates will receive an "adjusted diploma" that alerts potential employers about their short-comings.

"They will graduate, but it will be a diploma that will indicate they haven't met the literacy requirement," Cochrane said Tuesday.

"It's buyer beware. Currently everyone gets the same diploma. What we're saying is that's not acceptable. There's got to be some differentiation."

Education Minister Jane Purves said prospective employers have a right to know if a graduate can read, and the only way to find out now is by obtaining a transcript.

Purves said it's unreasonable to expect everyone will be literate. The best the system can probably do is limit illiterate graduates to two or three per cent of the total. The tests are part of a new education plan called Learning for Life the government released Tuesday.

Liberal Leader Danny Graham called the document "an awful idea. It sets up a situation where people are graduating with education light."

Bill Estabrooks, a former teacher and the NDP education critic, said the tests are biased against kids weak in one area.

"They're going to put the little asterisk beside their names. That's discriminatory," he said.

Purves defended the new diplomas, which will be handed out by 2009.

"We may aim for perfection but it would not be realistic to say we can achieve it," she said.

The minister said the diplomas were part of her larger effort to use tests to improve the basic reading, writing and arithmetic skills of children in the province.

The minister also announced that starting next September parents will receive standard, provincewide report cards that include a graded mark for elementary students and a number for high school students.

Next year, the province will begin testing children's literacy in Grade 6 and if they fail the children will receive added attention from resource teachers before they go to high school.

If the students fail the Grade 9 test they will be given the chance to repeat the test in Grades 10, 11 and 12.
 

ElFenix

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hmmm... i see you're pushing harder to join the United States...
 

eakers

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just because you have substandard education in the maritimes doesnt mean that other provinces follow suit.

the title of your thread is misleading.
 

Kadarin

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Allowing someone to graduate high school, even with a special "should've been on the short bus" diploma, is a crime. My opinion is that if you do not meet the required standards for literacy (or math, or history, or whatever else is required), then you don't graduate. If that damages your precious self-esteem, then boo-f*cking-hoo.

This is not Canada-specific, it applies to the US, too. If we are graduating kids (and we are, I am sure..) who can't read, someone's not doing their job, and whoever that is is doing a disservice to society and should be put before a firing squad.

Ok.. that's a bit harsh, but the sentiment is real.
 

Kev

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The public high school that was close to where I went (Catholic HS) reportedly only had 10% of their students reading at a 6th grade level or higher. It's sad.
 

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Originally posted by: eakers
just because you have substandard education in the maritimes doesnt mean that other provinces follow suit. the title of your thread is misleading.

I liv in ontareo, owr premeer wuz al lik kutting edukashion moneez and suporting priv8 edukashion
 

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Originally posted by: maladroit
The public high school that was close to where I went (Catholic HS) reportedly only had 10% of their students reading at a 6th grade level or higher. It's sad.

Just another reason why my kids will have to go to private school. Public school is keep getting worse and worse it seems, and the worse part is you have to keep contribute to it regardless whether your child got decent education or not.
 

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Originally posted by: rufruf44
Originally posted by: maladroit
The public high school that was close to where I went (Catholic HS) reportedly only had 10% of their students reading at a 6th grade level or higher. It's sad.

Just another reason why my kids will have to go to private school. Public school is keep getting worse and worse it seems, and the worse part is you have to keep contribute to it regardless whether your child got decent education or not.


If it's a Catholic HS, then it is private.
 

smp

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All the kids I know that went to private school are spoiled little turds.
I swear, here in Ontario the trend has been:
cut money to education and health.
Then when people say that health care and education suck, the conservative government point out that "public education and health don't work" ..
blach.. it's because they support everything private. Taking money out of these things just serves their cause because then people are almost forced to go private (if they want quality) .. health and education here used to be very good.
 

Scouzer

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I knew the title was a bit misleading but that is why I specified more clearly in my post, Eakers.

I live in Alberta, and with Saskatchewan we have the most difficult education in the country IIRC. Some provinces its clearly very sad.

Requirements for a High School diploma in Alberta:

English 30 or 33 (Grade 12 English), Science 30 or 33, Social Studies 20 (World issues, history, geography etc), Math 30 or 33, Information Processing (Computer Course), Career and Life Management, and Gym 10. Plus, you need 100 credits. You get 5 credits for all core subjects, 5 for most options, and 4 for the other courses (such as Info Pro).
 

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Originally posted by: rufruf44

Just another reason why my kids will have to go to private school. Public school is keep getting worse and worse it seems, and the worse part is you have to keep contribute to it regardless whether your child got decent education or not.

Um... I can't tell if this is satire or not ...? Anyone?