Canadian marijuana decriminalization almost certain now!

[Martin]

Commons Committee releases report on MJ


Unlike the Senate report that wanted full legalization, this commons report (released today) wants decriminalization for possesion of up to 30g (1 once = 28g)

A House of Commons committee Thursday recommended a "regime change" in the way that those possessing small amounts of cannabis are punished, advising that they be subject to a fine but not court proceedings or a criminal record.

Those possessing 30 grams or less of marijuana ? the amount the committee says would most likely be for personal use rather than for trafficking ? would receive a ticket, similar to a traffic offence.

The recommendations add weight to an indication by Justice Minister Martin Cauchon this week that Ottawa may move toward decriminalization as early as the new year. Mr. Cauchon said he intends to introduce legislation sometime in the first four months of next year.

With both the senate and commons committees recomending reform, the justice minister's remarks and with every party in favour, I see no reason why this won't pass.

 

[silverpig]

I think this may actually decrease MJ use. Right now the cops don't want to clog the system up with people having a joint or two. At worst right now they'll take your stuff and throw it out. No biggie. If this thing passes and they can start writing tickets, they'll be more inclined to do so. It's much easier (and more lucrative for the city) if cops can just write tickets...

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Commons Committee releases report on MJ


Unlike the Senate report that wanted full legalization, this commons report (released today) wants decriminalization for possesion of up to 30g (1 once = 28g)

A House of Commons committee Thursday recommended a "regime change" in the way that those possessing small amounts of cannabis are punished, advising that they be subject to a fine but not court proceedings or a criminal record.

Those possessing 30 grams or less of marijuana ? the amount the committee says would most likely be for personal use rather than for trafficking ? would receive a ticket, similar to a traffic offence.

The recommendations add weight to an indication by Justice Minister Martin Cauchon this week that Ottawa may move toward decriminalization as early as the new year. Mr. Cauchon said he intends to introduce legislation sometime in the first four months of next year.

With both the senate and commons committees recomending reform, the justice minister's remarks and with most parties in favour, I see no reason why this won't pass.

[doing his best Bush imitation] I got two words for you, 'leadership review'.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: silverpig
I think this may actually decrease MJ use. Right now the cops don't want to clog the system up with people having a joint or two. At worst right now they'll take your stuff and throw it out. No biggie. If this thing passes and they can start writing tickets, they'll be more inclined to do so. It's much easier (and more lucrative for the city) if cops can just write tickets...

That wouldn't be too cool. But then, they'd likely only be writing those tickets if you're foolish enough to smoke in public.
They'll even give you a ticket now in Victoria for doing that with cigarettes in public buildings.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: silverpig
I think this may actually decrease MJ use. Right now the cops don't want to clog the system up with people having a joint or two. At worst right now they'll take your stuff and throw it out. No biggie. If this thing passes and they can start writing tickets, they'll be more inclined to do so. It's much easier (and more lucrative for the city) if cops can just write tickets...

That wouldn't be too cool. But then, they'd likely only be writing those tickets if you're foolish enough to smoke in public.
They'll even give you a ticket now in Victoria for doing that with cigarettes in public buildings.

Ever been on Granville street?

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: silverpig
I think this may actually decrease MJ use. Right now the cops don't want to clog the system up with people having a joint or two. At worst right now they'll take your stuff and throw it out. No biggie. If this thing passes and they can start writing tickets, they'll be more inclined to do so. It's much easier (and more lucrative for the city) if cops can just write tickets...

That wouldn't be too cool. But then, they'd likely only be writing those tickets if you're foolish enough to smoke in public.
They'll even give you a ticket now in Victoria for doing that with cigarettes in public buildings.

Ever been on Granville street?

Yeah, but now they'll be issuing tickets, right?

Have you seen the latest attempt by John Walters (US drug Czar for you Americans who don't know, we've gotten to know him very well here in Canada) to "warn" us against it? Click below for the CTV interview:


John Walters, again.

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Commons Committee releases report on MJ


Unlike the Senate report that wanted full legalization, this commons report (released today) wants decriminalization for possesion of up to 30g (1 once = 28g)

A House of Commons committee Thursday recommended a "regime change" in the way that those possessing small amounts of cannabis are punished, advising that they be subject to a fine but not court proceedings or a criminal record.

Those possessing 30 grams or less of marijuana ? the amount the committee says would most likely be for personal use rather than for trafficking ? would receive a ticket, similar to a traffic offence.

The recommendations add weight to an indication by Justice Minister Martin Cauchon this week that Ottawa may move toward decriminalization as early as the new year. Mr. Cauchon said he intends to introduce legislation sometime in the first four months of next year.

With both the senate and commons committees recomending reform, the justice minister's remarks and with every party in favour, I see no reason why this won't pass.

Good stuff. Let's hope the US goverment and the DEA do not try to stick thier nose in where it doesn't belong.
This is the ONE issue that hagbard has right. Hell, even a broken clock is right twice a day

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Damn, that's a pretty clever idea.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Commons Committee releases report on MJ


Unlike the Senate report that wanted full legalization, this commons report (released today) wants decriminalization for possesion of up to 30g (1 once = 28g)

A House of Commons committee Thursday recommended a "regime change" in the way that those possessing small amounts of cannabis are punished, advising that they be subject to a fine but not court proceedings or a criminal record.

Those possessing 30 grams or less of marijuana ? the amount the committee says would most likely be for personal use rather than for trafficking ? would receive a ticket, similar to a traffic offence.

The recommendations add weight to an indication by Justice Minister Martin Cauchon this week that Ottawa may move toward decriminalization as early as the new year. Mr. Cauchon said he intends to introduce legislation sometime in the first four months of next year.

With both the senate and commons committees recomending reform, the justice minister's remarks and with every party in favour, I see no reason why this won't pass.

Good stuff. Let's hope the US goverment and the DEA do not try to stick thier nose in where it doesn't belong.
This is the ONE issue that hagbard has right. Hell, even a broken clock is right twice a day

That's okay, you'll come around

 

[spaceman]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Commons Committee releases report on MJ


Unlike the Senate report that wanted full legalization, this commons report (released today) wants decriminalization for possesion of up to 30g (1 once = 28g)

A House of Commons committee Thursday recommended a "regime change" in the way that those possessing small amounts of cannabis are punished, advising that they be subject to a fine but not court proceedings or a criminal record.

Those possessing 30 grams or less of marijuana ? the amount the committee says would most likely be for personal use rather than for trafficking ? would receive a ticket, similar to a traffic offence.

The recommendations add weight to an indication by Justice Minister Martin Cauchon this week that Ottawa may move toward decriminalization as early as the new year. Mr. Cauchon said he intends to introduce legislation sometime in the first four months of next year.

With both the senate and commons committees recomending reform, the justice minister's remarks and with every party in favour, I see no reason why this won't pass.

Good stuff. Let's hope the US goverment and the DEA do not try to stick thier nose in where it doesn't belong.
This is the ONE issue that hagbard has right. Hell, even a broken clock is right twice a day

100% agree.

 

[Ns1]

damn, legal drinking age of 19, MJ decriminalized


taht just might be worth putting up with an army inadequate of defending rhode island

 

[CaesarX]

Even though i don't really smoke anymore, thumbs up anyway! This will keep a lot of otherwise harmless people out of court.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: silverpig
I think this may actually decrease MJ use. Right now the cops don't want to clog the system up with people having a joint or two. At worst right now they'll take your stuff and throw it out. No biggie. If this thing passes and they can start writing tickets, they'll be more inclined to do so. It's much easier (and more lucrative for the city) if cops can just write tickets...

That wouldn't be too cool. But then, they'd likely only be writing those tickets if you're foolish enough to smoke in public.
They'll even give you a ticket now in Victoria for doing that with cigarettes in public buildings.

Ever been on Granville street?

Yeah, but now they'll be issuing tickets, right?

Have you seen the latest attempt by John Walters (US drug Czar for you Americans who don't know, we've gotten to know him very well here in Canada) to "warn" us against it? Click below for the CTV interview:


John Walters, again.

Yeah, it's pretty much legalized downtown now anyways. Putting fines on it will just make it easier for the cops to enforce.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Commons Committee releases report on MJ


Unlike the Senate report that wanted full legalization, this commons report (released today) wants decriminalization for possesion of up to 30g (1 once = 28g)

A House of Commons committee Thursday recommended a "regime change" in the way that those possessing small amounts of cannabis are punished, advising that they be subject to a fine but not court proceedings or a criminal record.

Those possessing 30 grams or less of marijuana ? the amount the committee says would most likely be for personal use rather than for trafficking ? would receive a ticket, similar to a traffic offence.

The recommendations add weight to an indication by Justice Minister Martin Cauchon this week that Ottawa may move toward decriminalization as early as the new year. Mr. Cauchon said he intends to introduce legislation sometime in the first four months of next year.

With both the senate and commons committees recomending reform, the justice minister's remarks and with most parties in favour, I see no reason why this won't pass.

[doing his best Bush imitation] I got two words for you, 'leadership review'.

don't worry, chretien won't be going anywhere for a while.

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Originally posted by: CaesarX
This will keep a lot of otherwise harmless people out of court.

And prison. It is sickening that the US goverment cannot recognise that one major reason why we have the largest inmate population (per capita) in the world is the assanine zero tolerance drug laws.
You take a non-violent young man and put him in prison for cannabis possesion or shrooms or whatever (you know how many university students use these two substances?!) and when they come out they are NO LONGER non-violent. You've taken someone who was simply interested in experimenting with drugs (even if supplying cannabis the person is still only as guilty of a crime as the guys who sold a few bottles of bootleg booze to his friends here and there during prohibition) and turned them into a hardcore criminal.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak<br[doing his best Bush imitation] I got two words for you, 'leadership review'.

don't worry, chretien won't be going anywhere for a while.[/quote]

April, isn't it?

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: CaesarX
This will keep a lot of otherwise harmless people out of court.

And prison. It is sickening that the US goverment cannot recognise that one major reason why we have the largest inmate population (per capita) in the world is the assanine zero tolerance drug laws.

I especially like how Walters goes around and says "we have more kids in drug treatment programs for marijuana abuse than at any other time" but of course, leaves out that the drug treatment is now a requirement as part of sentencing. He just packs one lie ontop of another.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: CaesarX
This will keep a lot of otherwise harmless people out of court.

And prison. It is sickening that the US goverment cannot recognise that one major reason why we have the largest inmate population (per capita) in the world is the assanine zero tolerance drug laws.

I have a solution to all our crime problems. Make everything legal! That way, nothing is illegal and no one will go to jail! I'm so smart...no wait, that's the stupidest idea in the world. :disgust:

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: CaesarX
This will keep a lot of otherwise harmless people out of court.

And prison. It is sickening that the US goverment cannot recognise that one major reason why we have the largest inmate population (per capita) in the world is the assanine zero tolerance drug laws.

I have a solution to all our crime problems. Make everything legal! That way, nothing is illegal and no one will go to jail! I'm so smart...no wait, that's the stupidest idea in the world. :disgust:

Indeed that IS a stupid idea and I suspect you may be retarded for suggesting it.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: CaesarX
This will keep a lot of otherwise harmless people out of court.

And prison. It is sickening that the US goverment cannot recognise that one major reason why we have the largest inmate population (per capita) in the world is the assanine zero tolerance drug laws.

I have a solution to all our crime problems. Make everything legal! That way, nothing is illegal and no one will go to jail! I'm so smart...no wait, that's the stupidest idea in the world. :disgust:

Indeed that IS a stupid idea and I suspect you may be retarded for suggesting it.

?


It's too clear now that you are superior to me. I mean, your comment basically says that the main reason why so many people are in jain in the US is because people keep breaking the law (specifically, drug laws). Wow, that's just inspiration. You must have smoked quite a few joints to be able to see clear enough to figure something like that out. And the best part is that the US government has no idea of this corrolation! You must be the only person in the whole US to have figured out that when people commit crimes they go to jail! Your solution was to make drug use legal, and that would clear out the jails. What I did was show how incredibly stupid that is because if you follow your logic through to conclusion you could say that if we make everything legal, no one would go to jail at all! You appear to be the retarded one here.

 

[GermyBoy]

Arguments over the internet is like the special olympics.





Even if you win, you're still retarded.

 

[Lonyo]

Ah, you are all fools . What you don't realise is that Bush KNOWS drugs help terrorists, so we can't have people doing drugs because of all the help they give terrorists. You need to remember drugs are illegal because THEY HELP TERRORISTS!!!.
Yeah, of course

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: CaesarX
This will keep a lot of otherwise harmless people out of court.

And prison. It is sickening that the US goverment cannot recognise that one major reason why we have the largest inmate population (per capita) in the world is the assanine zero tolerance drug laws.

I have a solution to all our crime problems. Make everything legal! That way, nothing is illegal and no one will go to jail! I'm so smart...no wait, that's the stupidest idea in the world. :disgust:

Indeed that IS a stupid idea and I suspect you may be retarded for suggesting it.

?


It's too clear now that you are superior to me. I mean, your comment basically says that the main reason why so many people are in jain in the US is because people keep breaking the law (specifically, drug laws). Wow, that's just inspiration. You must have smoked quite a few joints to be able to see clear enough to figure something like that out. And the best part is that the US government has no idea of this corrolation! You must be the only person in the whole US to have figured out that when people commit crimes they go to jail! Your solution was to make drug use legal, and that would clear out the jails. What I did was show how incredibly stupid that is because if you follow your logic through to conclusion you could say that if we make everything legal, no one would go to jail at all! You appear to be the retarded one here.

My god man who stole your brain?

Read what I said, "one major reason why we have the largest inmate population (per capita) in the world is the asinine zero tolerance drug laws."

Did I say "asinine drug laws" thereby inferring that all drug laws are asinine and the logical conclusion of which is all drugs should be legalised?
OR, my feeble minded friend, did I say "asinine zero tolerance drug laws" (zero tolerance being the qualifier in that statement) thereby inferring zero tolerance drugs laws are asinine and the logical conclusion of which is removing the zero tolerance from the drug laws?

Speaking of dropped, you were dropped on your head as a child weren't you? Awwww that?s sad.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

I especially like how Walters goes around and says "we have more kids in drug treatment programs for marijuana abuse than at any other time" but of course, leaves out that the drug treatment is now a requirement as part of sentencing. He just packs one lie ontop of another.

Our policy is the culmination of a good idea (decreasing drug use) mated to unrealistic expectations (decreasing drug use). Now drug abuse we can fight with adequate public health resources (education/treatment; both of which are grossly underfunded in the USA). As for Walters, he's just another political hack pushing a feel good agenda. I wish we had elected a reformer with results so we could show some real progress in decreasing drug abuse and drug associated crime. Start with alcohol and tobacco and deliver a genuine message to the young. Comparatively few drug users/abusers start with MJ, cocaine, or heroin . . . granted X and Special K maybe exceptions to the rule.

The ad campaign about drug use funding terrorists was ridiculous; elements of truth but still ridiculous. People in my state were using smuggled cigarettes to support terrorist groups. Diamonds and oil probably fund the vast majority of the world's terrorist activity.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge

Originally posted by: CaesarX
This will keep a lot of otherwise harmless people out of court.

And prison. It is sickening that the US goverment cannot recognise that one major reason why we have the largest inmate population (per capita) in the world is the assanine zero tolerance drug laws.

I have a solution to all our crime problems. Make everything legal! That way, nothing is illegal and no one will go to jail! I'm so smart...no wait, that's the stupidest idea in the world. :disgust:

Indeed that IS a stupid idea and I suspect you may be retarded for suggesting it.

?


It's too clear now that you are superior to me. I mean, your comment basically says that the main reason why so many people are in jain in the US is because people keep breaking the law (specifically, drug laws). Wow, that's just inspiration. You must have smoked quite a few joints to be able to see clear enough to figure something like that out. And the best part is that the US government has no idea of this corrolation! You must be the only person in the whole US to have figured out that when people commit crimes they go to jail! Your solution was to make drug use legal, and that would clear out the jails. What I did was show how incredibly stupid that is because if you follow your logic through to conclusion you could say that if we make everything legal, no one would go to jail at all! You appear to be the retarded one here.

I see your point, but the issue is locking people up for "non-violent" crimes and how many such "criminals" are in US prisons who fall under that category.