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Canada's pot possession laws declared unconstitutional.

Yeah, I read about this.

Honestly, the pot issue seems like prohibition with booze. It's just not going to go away, dispite the fact that it's bad for us.

IMO the police should spend their time finding illegal weapons that kill people. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone dying from a pot overdose.
 
Originally posted by: dennilfloss
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story...07/13/pot-toronto.html

Gonna be interesting to see how the Conservative government reacts to this. Peace, order and good government. 🙂
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All it means is that government will shop the courts to find one favorable to him.

Lets see, average citizen Joe versus Canada. Granted if this was a South Park episode Canada would surrender, but its not.

Do you think the current government leanings matter? Really?


Giving up drug laws is giving up control. I don't see that happening North or South of the border any time soon. Once a government takes control of something they rarely if ever give it up
 
Are you lefties out there ready for this? I'm about to blow your minds!...

Pot is the only drug that should be legalized, regulated, and taxed appropriately. :shocked:
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Are you lefties out there ready for this? I'm about to blow your minds!...

Pot is the only drug that should be legalized, regulated, and taxed appropriately. :shocked:
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Most folks under 40 who aren't evangelical retards feel this way.
 
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Yeah, I read about this.

Honestly, the pot issue seems like prohibition with booze. It's just not going to go away, dispite the fact that it's bad for us.

IMO the police should spend their time finding illegal weapons that kill people. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone dying from a pot overdose.
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Here ya go: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...04/01/20/ixportal.html

Appears to be one of the only recorded cases though. But if we can help save even one person, an outright ban is justified. /sarcasm.
 
Most folks under 40 who aren't evangelical retards feel this way.
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hmm, lets see, factually wrong, and calling people that disagree with you names....typical lib/Dem/lefty tactic.

how about some facts (yep, those pesky facts..., that prove what you "know" and "feel" must be "right", is utterly wrong)

Gallup Poll

executive summary for those of you with A.D.D.

2/3's of adults do not favor legalizing pot
slightly less than 1/2 under age 30 favor legalizing pot.
slightly less than 1/2 of non-church goers favor legalizing pot.

yes, over time, idea of legalizing pot has gained support according to this poll, but it would seem that "most people" regardless of age group of degree of religiosity do not favor it, according to this poll.

don't you kids read anymore?

 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Most folks under 40 who aren't evangelical retards feel this way.
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hmm, lets see, factually wrong, and calling people that disagree with you names....typical lib/Dem/lefty tactic.
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Pot meet kettle, as for the rest, blow me tough guy.

Edit - to use your numbers from the same poll summarized here: Text

"Support for legalization varies by age, gender, location, and political persuasion. Among young adults (18 to 29), nearly half (47%) are in favor, but that figure declines dramatically with age. Among 30-to-64-year-olds, only 35% favor legalization, and among the senior set (65 or older), the figure declines to 22%. Men tend to favor legalization more than women, with 44% of men aged 18 to 49 agreeing, compared to only 34% of women in the same age group. The numbers decline with age for both sexes."

So my chosen demographic isn't represented here, you can't say what I posited is false.

18-28 ~ 47%

30-64 ~ 35%

If the demo was 18-40 there's a chance you could pick up the extra 4% needed to be a "majority".

"Church attendance and support for legalization are negatively correlated. The more likely you are to attend weekly church services, the less likely you are to support legalization. Only 17% of regular church-goers supported it, compared to 49% of those who never or rarely go to church."

49% not a majority but within the margin of error to be a majority. Evangelicals are the largest bloc in the country.
 
"Pot is the only drug that should be legalized, regulated, and taxed appropriately."

What about perscription drugs, cigarettes, alcohol?
 
It's pretty funny because the ruling could be interpreted to mean that the government should go after medicinal users. My understanding of the gist of the argument is this:

Government lets people use medicinally, but did not make a law saying they could.
Thus, possession laws are flawed.
Thus, they can't charge average joe for possession.

To me it seems like it could go this way:

Government lets people use medicinally, but did not make a law saying they could.
Guy points out all medicinal users have no law backing them up.
Thus medicinal users are not using it legally.
Thus medicinal users are in trouble.
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Most folks under 40 who aren't evangelical retards feel this way.
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hmm, lets see, factually wrong, and calling people that disagree with you names....typical lib/Dem/lefty tactic.
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I hope you were trying to be ironic with that statement...

As for the gallup poll, it crashed my browser when I tried to open it (stupid work computer), but the opening paragraph says explicitly that support for marijuana legalization has been steadily rising since the 1960s. To me, that says that people are realizing that marijuana is relatively harmless as far as drugs go, that it is widely available, and that the "war" against marijuana has been largely unsuccesful.

Marijuana legalization is one of those social issues that goes from being completely demonized to gaining public support and eventually changing the law. We've seen it happen with dozens, hundreds, of social issues in this country; everything from the formation of unions to the abolition of slavery has progressed in this manner. And while legalizing a mind-altering substance is by no means as lofty a goal as granting women and minorities the right to vote, for example, it is nonetheless gaining ground among a public who wants to know just why the government can tell us what we can or cannot do to ourselves.

It's only a matter of time now.
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
Most folks under 40 who aren't evangelical retards feel this way.
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hmm, lets see, factually wrong, and calling people that disagree with you names....typical lib/Dem/lefty tactic.

how about some facts (yep, those pesky facts..., that prove what you "know" and "feel" must be "right", is utterly wrong)

Gallup Poll

executive summary for those of you with A.D.D.

2/3's of adults do not favor legalizing pot
slightly less than 1/2 under age 30 favor legalizing pot.
slightly less than 1/2 of non-church goers favor legalizing pot.

yes, over time, idea of legalizing pot has gained support according to this poll, but it would seem that "most people" regardless of age group of degree of religiosity do not favor it, according to this poll.

don't you kids read anymore?
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Don't get me started on the names extreme or even moderate conservatives call people, they're no better. Not only that, but it's more often based on bigotry rather than just simple asshattery, as is the case with name/mud slinging liberals.

As for the ganja, it's not nearly as bad for you as alcohol or cigarettes, and it even has medicinal properties. The only reason people get hurt over marijuana is because the trafficking has to be underground due to bullsh1t laws, and therefore it's a dangerous game run by shady people... Well, some shady people. There are also some quite respectable folk who traffic marijuana, too.
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
as for the rest, blow me tough guy.
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Attaboy! Never let the facts get in the way of your feelings!!
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Go ahead and respond then -

According to your poll, 49% of people acorss all ages that don't attend church are for legalizing and 47% of people 30 and under are.

Doesn't take a genius to conclude that ~2/3 or more of people that don't attend church and who are under 30 support legalization. That's a solid majority.

Thanks for playing.
 
Originally posted by: Stunt
"Pot is the only drug that should be legalized, regulated, and taxed appropriately."

What about perscription drugs, cigarettes, alcohol?
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I meant - of those that are currently illegal.

duh.
 
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Go ahead and respond then -

According to your poll, 49% of people acorss all ages that don't attend church are for legalizing and 47% of people 30 and under are.

Doesn't take a genius to conclude that ~2/3 or more of people that don't attend church and who are under 30 support legalization. That's a solid majority.
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your right..it takes an idiot to reach this conclusion.

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So my chosen demographic isn't represented here, you can't say what I posited is false.

18-28 ~ 47%

30-64 ~ 35%

If the demo was 18-40 there's a chance you could pick up the extra 4% needed to be a "majority".
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Wrongo...in fact the data does prove your wrong.

I suggest you stick with your feelings and avoid simple math problems in the future...


if the demo was 18-40, there is NO CHANCE a majority would favor legalizing pot, as the percent favoring legalizing pot DECREASES above age 30. I know it's hard to grasp with A.D.D., but the data actually PROVES that LESS THAN 47% of those age 18-40 support legalizing pot.

Adding up percentages from different questions asked and claiming this represents a majority favoring legalization of pot...only proves you need to put that doobie down

...using your logic..add up the percentages from 5 or 6 different questions and you'll get 230% support for legalization of pot...Groups overlap dude! You can't just add up the different numbers and have it mean anything...

count your change, i bet your getting cheated!!
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
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Go ahead and respond then -

According to your poll, 49% of people acorss all ages that don't attend church are for legalizing and 47% of people 30 and under are.

Doesn't take a genius to conclude that ~2/3 or more of people that don't attend church and who are under 30 support legalization. That's a solid majority.
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your right..it takes an idiot to reach this conclusion.

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So my chosen demographic isn't represented here, you can't say what I posited is false.

18-28 ~ 47%

30-64 ~ 35%

If the demo was 18-40 there's a chance you could pick up the extra 4% needed to be a "majority".
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Wrongo...in fact the data does prove your wrong.

I suggest you stick with your feelings and avoid simple math problems in the future...


if the demo was 18-40, there is NO CHANCE a majority would favor legalizing pot, as the percent favoring legalizing pot DECREASES above age 30. I know it's hard to grasp with A.D.D., but the data actually PROVES that LESS THAN 47% of those age 18-40 support legalizing pot.

Adding up percentages from different questions asked and claiming this represents a majority favoring legalization of pot...only proves you need to put that doobie down

...using your logic..add up the percentages from 5 or 6 different questions and you'll get 230% support for legalization of pot...Groups overlap dude! You can't just add up the different numbers and have it mean anything...

count your change, i bet your getting cheated!!
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Take out the church goers and it's going to inch up, much more than 4% in fact since only 17% of church goers are in favor. That's horribly skewing the numbers on that 47% in the 18-30.

my original position was that people under 40 who aren't religious, i.e. go to church support legalization, your poll does nothing to disprove this, the 18-30 includes people who do and do not go to church. Also, just because ages 30-64 are only at ~35 doesn't tell us much about the 30-40 demo which may not be that much different from 18-30, it could be that 40-64 is a much lower number. There is simply no way to tell definitively from this data.

The only locktight way to disprove what I said is if we had a third number, which is what percentage of these 18-30 year olds attend church, we don't have that.

The rest can be inferred, not from adding up 5 groups, just 2, and it's reasonable to conclude that what I said is true given the data we have.
 
Good for them.
I've never seen the problem with pot.
I don't use it but if others want to , thats their choice.

I've never heard of anyone smoking pot going out and murdering someone, getting mad and assaulting someone, driving a car and killing someone, losing their job because they can't make it to work.

hmm, thats all the things alcohol does.
but thats legal.


personally I would not have illegal drugs at all.
If you want to use something use it, let each person be responsible for their actions.
I don't need uncle sam to be my mom&dad.
 
it's reasonable to conclude that what I said is true given the data we have
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i want to see a transcript of your grade school math scores....

you are in a complete mental fogbank, and for your own health, stop trying to do any math problems and cut back on the weed.

your inferences are competely delusional. the math utterly refutes every one of your statements, but don't let a little thing like that make you change your mind!!
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
it's reasonable to conclude that what I said is true given the data we have
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i want to see a transcript of your grade school math scores....

you are in a complete mental fogbank, and for your own health, stop trying to do any math problems and cut back on the weed.

your inferences are competely delusional. the math utterly refutes every one of your statements, but don't let a little thing like that make you change your mind!!
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That's one of the most beligerant and rude posts I've seen in awhile. :thumbsdown:
 
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
it's reasonable to conclude that what I said is true given the data we have
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i want to see a transcript of your grade school math scores....

you are in a complete mental fogbank, and for your own health, stop trying to do any math problems and cut back on the weed.

your inferences are competely delusional. the math utterly refutes every one of your statements, but don't let a little thing like that make you change your mind!!
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That's one of the most beligerant and rude posts I've seen in awhile. :thumbsdown:
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He was "perma"-banned for a reason. I suspect he'll be one of the first re-banned.
 
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Are you lefties out there ready for this? I'm about to blow your minds!...

Pot is the only drug that should be legalized, regulated, and taxed appropriately. :shocked:
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Most folks under 40 who aren't evangelical retards feel this way.
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The hemp plant is far more dangerous to other business interests than any evangelical retard since it has many uses in addition to being consumed for medicinal or pleasure purposes.😉
 
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