Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops

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In a ceremony that received virtually no attention in the American media, the United States and Canada signed a military agreement Feb. 14 allowing the armed forces from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a domestic civil emergency, even one that does not involve a cross-border crisis.

The agreement, defined as a Civil Assistance Plan, was not submitted to Congress for approval, nor did Congress pass any law or treaty specifically authorizing this military agreement to combine the operations of the armed forces of the United States and Canada in the event of a wide range of domestic civil disturbances ranging from violent storms, to health epidemics, to civil riots or terrorist attacks.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...PAGE.view&pageId=57228

And if you want to complain about the source, here is another, maybe more information. http://www.canada.com/topics/n...41ac-8cef-902a1d14879d
Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.

The U.S. military's Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.

Might be a good idea for a faster emergency response (Katrina) and all. I am not sure how effective integrating the troops will be. Shouldn't they have approval from someone for something as big as this? And why haven't I heard about this anywhere else?
 

CanOWorms

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Foreign soldiers under the command of an inbred, decrepit Queen invading the US... sounds like a B movie.
 

little elvis

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Not sure how big of a deal this really is.... For the past year I've done multiple projects with the Canadian DND and there are always American Officers present on a work exchanges. Vehicles are traded back and forth and technology is shared. On the project I was working on, we always had American Military personnel on site to observe.

It appeared to me, that at least on some level, there was already some integration.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: little elvis
Not sure how big of a deal this really is.... For the past year I've done multiple projects with the Canadian DND and there are always American Officers present on a work exchanges. Vehicles are traded back and forth and technology is shared. On the project I was working on, we always had American Military personnel on site to observe.

It appeared to me, that at least on some level, there was already some integration.
Can you please ask the US to share a marvelous new technology called jet propulsion and that of a great metal beast that runs on huge, slithering tracks?

 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: little elvis
Not sure how big of a deal this really is.... For the past year I've done multiple projects with the Canadian DND and there are always American Officers present on a work exchanges. Vehicles are traded back and forth and technology is shared. On the project I was working on, we always had American Military personnel on site to observe.

It appeared to me, that at least on some level, there was already some integration.

There is a lot already. My brother is in the CF and he's doing navy seal training in hawaii later this year. They also have the opportunity to do the army ranger course as well. I know some of the CF train with the SAS too.

This is a bit different though as there could potentially be canadian troops marching along american streets quelling riots and such.

I like the idea for disasters and what not, but I'm not too keen on the idea for riots.
 

yllus

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Meh, we're so heavily integrated and friendly with each other anyways that if there ever was an emergency of a large enough magnitude that the CF couldn't handle it alone, it'd be natural and instinctive to ask for U.S. military support. This really just formalizes that unspoken agreement.
 

SeaSerpent

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: little elvis
Not sure how big of a deal this really is.... For the past year I've done multiple projects with the Canadian DND and there are always American Officers present on a work exchanges. Vehicles are traded back and forth and technology is shared. On the project I was working on, we always had American Military personnel on site to observe.

It appeared to me, that at least on some level, there was already some integration.
Can you please ask the US to share a marvelous new technology called jet propulsion and that of a great metal beast that runs on huge, slithering tracks?


lol:)

 

dphantom

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Sounds more like a mutual aid compact like a lot of cities use to share fire and police resources. I don't think Congressional approval is necessary as this is not a treaty requiring Senate confirmation.
 
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Not surprising considering our military relationship with Canada through NORTHCOM and NORAD. Heck, we even coordinate with Mexico as part of NORTHCOM, though it is probably difficult to integrate pelicans into the air defenses.
 

palehorse

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I would be VERY proud to work side-by-side with any Canadian soldier -- ever! Unlike most sheepish countries in the world, Canada has done a KICK-ASS job in Afghanistan, and their troops have proven themselves effective and brave. I only wish some of our other supposed "allies" would do the same...

That said, given NORTHCOM's mission, I'm not surprised by this announcement at all -- in fact, the only thing that does surprise me is that it's taken this long to put something like this in place.
 

rpanic

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
How many Canadian troops are we gonna use....all 4 of them? ;)
FYI Canada has a standing army of almost 230 troops.

You are not supposed to include their horses, we don?t count vehicles.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: rpanic
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
How many Canadian troops are we gonna use....all 4 of them? ;)
FYI Canada has a standing army of almost 230 troops.

You are not supposed to include their horses, we don?t count vehicles.

:Q LOL!! OK, that was funny...
 

dphantom

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: rpanic
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
How many Canadian troops are we gonna use....all 4 of them? ;)
FYI Canada has a standing army of almost 230 troops.

You are not supposed to include their horses, we don?t count vehicles.

:Q LOL!! OK, that was funny...

But we do include dog sleds. ;)
 

OutHouse

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i thought they already did this, NORAD has a bunch of canucks inside the mountain.