Canada a top pick for terrorist groups seeking weapons, spy agency says

[Alistar7]

Canada a top pick for terrorist groups seeking weapons, spy agency says

OTTAWA (AFP) - Countries or terrorist groups seeking weapons of mass destruction (WMD) frequently target Canada "for clandestine and illicit procurement activities," Canada's spy agency said in an annual report.


The Canadian Security and Intelligence Service also warned that Islamic extremists -- particularly Sunni extremists -- presented the greatest security threat to the country.


Canada was a prime target for terrorist activities because the country is "an internationally recognized leader in many high-technology sectors (such as the nuclear, chemical, pharmaceutical, biotechnological, electronics and aerospace sectors)'" CSIS said.


That meant that Canada "remains a frequent target for clandestine and illicit procurement activities by countries and organizations of proliferation concern, most of which lack the indigenous capability and develop WMD."


The agency also said that "new information has come to light indicating that Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s search for CBRN (chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear) weapons was even more assiduous, and in some respects had progressed further, than previously believed."


In its report to parliament, CSIS said: "In particular, al Qaeda was found to be pursuing a sophisticated biological weapons research programme, focussing on such agents as anthrax, ricin, and botulinum toxin."

(yeah, they had camps in Afghanistan and Iraq for that)

Must put flame suit on and brace myself for the attacks from our doubly violent neighbors up north.........

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Yep, they and the US. We supplied them with airplanes.

 

[Alistar7]

We "supplied" them? Did you leave your car parked outside? If I stole that and used it to car bomb a pre-school would you feel as if you had "suppplied" me with anything?

This is Canada's very own internal spy agency saying this, it is not my opinion.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
We "supplied" them? Did you leave your car parked outside? If I stole that and used it to car bomb a pre-school would you feel as if you had "suppplied" me with anything?

This is Canada's very own internal spy agency saying this, it is not my opinion.

Ahh, so Canada's policy is to support terrorists? Who, precisely is intentionally doing this? Seems that the reason terrorists want to go to Canada is because resources exist for their use. If they acquire them under false pretenses, than that is no different them doing so in the US.

The point about the planes is that the terrorists used resources available. They would do so with a well meaning US business as well as a Canadian one. There is nothing sinister here on the part of the US or Canada. They would steal the car in any country if it suited them. Notice- "remains a frequent target for clandestine and illicit procurement activities by countries and organizations of proliferation concern, most of which lack the indigenous capability and develop WMD. Clandestine and illicit. Not freely given, but by duplicity. I can believe that. You ought to believe that if they can dupe an American business to aiding them they would. Maybe this is what you are saying and I missed it.

 

[Alistar7]

I don't see how they "duped" the airlines though, but I understand your point this isn't official policy of the Govt. of Canada, however they should at least monitor the sale of materials that can be used for WMD creation. The fact that so many organizations use them as a financial hub is also something they can control, just as French banks willingly funnel and hold money for Hamas. By doing nothing they create the appearance of support, or at the very least indifference.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
I don't see how they "duped" the airlines though, but I understand your point this isn't official policy of the Govt. of Canada, however they should at least monitor the sale of materials that can be used for WMD creation. The fact that so many organizations use them as a financia lhub is also something they can control. By doing nothing they create the appearance of support, or at the very least indifference.

I agree they need to monitor more closely. I suspect the report is based on an investigation to the state of vulnerability of Canadian businesses. If so, becoming aware is a first step to remedy. If this has not been a concern, then the task would never have been undertaken by the CSIS (who BTW are very good at what they do). Now the test here is to see what is done about it.

 

[Alistar7]

Love to see a worldwide effort, especially the EU. I will gladly admit my countries past role in this arena, but I also know where the majority of the WMD in the ME among other places have originated. I think it is safe to say the biggest threat from terrorists is from that region of the world, hopefully Iraq will become stable along with Palestine and Israel and maybe Iran very soon. Getting rid of all WMD isn't as important as making the changes required to stop the cycle of terrorism.

Supposedly this will be happening after this last summit, an international effort to greatly reduce the spread of all WMD. Considering the power of modern conventional weapons I fail to see the need for anything else, even large scale nuclear bombs. I would rather see the US go with small tactical nukes. The problem is not legitimate govt's though, it's terror groups, this is their only method of a possible widespread killing. I wish the rest of the world would step up and collectively we can wipe out this generation of terrorists, and work together to create societies that don't create them......

 

[sandorski]

I really don't see why this report has been posted. All it says is that Canada has the things that terrorists want and that Canada should remain on gaurd for that reason. It does not say whether terrorists have actually acquired anything or used anything acquired from Canada.

 

[burnedout]

This confirms it then. I always knew the Canadians were up to something!

 

[SebastianK]

The irony. Canada's military budge is around 1 billion. Our mechanized machines are turning into rust buckets. Canada's military cannot afford nuclear, or biological weapons. So stealing is out of the question.

Acquiring the limited materials is nearly impossible unless these islamic patriots are high in the food-chain within these research/servicing facilities.

Clandestine operations and Procurement is remotely possible if they bring in the materials and equipment.

 

[hagbard]

Glad to help out.

 

[Zebo]

You NEED to edit your post hag.

 

[amok]

The irony. Canada's military budge is around 1 billion. Our mechanized machines are turning into rust buckets. Canada's military cannot afford nuclear, or biological weapons. So stealing is out of the question.

Why should their military budget be high? As if the US would ever allow anyone to attack Canada and gain a foothold so close to their own backyard. Instead of spending money on military trinkets that they don't need, Canada funnels money into things like a decent health care system, which the US can't afford because of its military budget.

The issue at hand is that Canada does have a decent industrial base for chemical and biological products, both of which could be used to set up chemical and biological weapons labs. Just need to keep an eye on things is all, which is what the report suggests. Its not saying that Canada has WMD available to be driven across the border by terrorists if I'm reading correctly.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: SebastianK
The irony. Canada's military budge is around 1 billion. Our mechanized machines are turning into rust buckets. Canada's military cannot afford nuclear, or biological weapons. So stealing is out of the question.

Acquiring the limited materials is nearly impossible unless these islamic patriots are high in the food-chain within these research/servicing facilities.

Clandestine operations and Procurement is remotely possible if they bring in the materials and equipment.

It's more like $8-9 billion(still low) and Canada did have Chemical and possibly had Bio weapons. L.B. Pearson set Canada as a non-Nuclear Nation.

Recently, last 4-5 years, there's been talk of the US and Russia sending Weapons Grade Nuclear materials to Canada for destruction. It turns out that Canada's Candu Nuclear reactor is capable of using this material as fuel. Whether it has been or is being done is unknown.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: sandorski
I really don't see why this report has been posted. All it says is that Canada has the things that terrorists want and that Canada should remain on gaurd for that reason. It does not say whether terrorists have actually acquired anything or used anything acquired from Canada.

This is relevant, it says Canada is a top pick, not a possiblilty, it sheds light on the steps they need to take to ensure any materials that could be used in the production of WMD to be closely watched.

Can the US afford to not maintain a military? Canada uses on the US to pay for their social programs, by making us their defense. They rely on us for their very existence, and yet look at the attitude of some of their citizens, don't blame them too much though, they are extremely violent there, twice as bad as the US.....

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: sandorski
I really don't see why this report has been posted. All it says is that Canada has the things that terrorists want and that Canada should remain on gaurd for that reason. It does not say whether terrorists have actually acquired anything or used anything acquired from Canada.

This is relevant, it says Canada is a top pick, not a possiblilty, it sheds light on the steps they need to take to ensure any materials that could be used in the production of WMD to be closely watched.

Can the US afford to not maintain a military? Canada uses on the US to pay for their social programs, by making us their defense. They rely on us for their very existence, and yet look at the attitude of some of their citizens, don't blame them too much though, they are extremely violent there, twice as bad as the US.....

Americans are clearly delusional.

 

[CaptnKirk]

The Bible insinuates that Armagheddon will be an invasion from the Northerners.
I have always lived in total fear of Canada because of this.
Look how they used Bio-Terrorism on their own with SARS in Toronto.
Frightening radical country, the un-named member of the 'Axis-of Evul'
Yep, when they Evolve we'll have our hands full.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: sandorski
I really don't see why this report has been posted. All it says is that Canada has the things that terrorists want and that Canada should remain on gaurd for that reason. It does not say whether terrorists have actually acquired anything or used anything acquired from Canada.

This is relevant, it says Canada is a top pick, not a possiblilty, it sheds light on the steps they need to take to ensure any materials that could be used in the production of WMD to be closely watched.

Can the US afford to not maintain a military? Canada uses on the US to pay for their social programs, by making us their defense. They rely on us for their very existence, and yet look at the attitude of some of their citizens, don't blame them too much though, they are extremely violent there, twice as bad as the US.....

BS. Our proximity with the US is more risk than benefit, War wise.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
The Bible insinuates that Armagheddon will be an invasion from the Northerners.
I have always lived in total fear of Canada because of this.
Look how they used Bio-Terrorism on their own with SARS in Toronto.
Frightening radical country, the un-named member of the 'Axis-of Evul'
Yep, when they Evolve we'll have our hands full.

Phear us!

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
and yet look at the attitude of some of their citizens, don't blame them too much though, they are extremely violent there, twice as bad as the US.....

Penelty flag: trolling, on the offense. 15 yard penelty and automatic first down.