Can you tell the difference between 128kbit and 192kbit mp3? (results)

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dawks

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test-x.wav was 128kbit mp3
test-y.wav was 192kbit mp3


Edit: Since everyone jumped in with votes AFTER I posted results, I'll clarify. Before the results were revealed, the votes were:

test-x 6
test-y 10
test-r 2
test-s 0


Did anyone try the second set of WAVs?
 
Deeko

Deeko

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I can, but I an't downloadin nothin cuz I'm drunk and lazy and listening to outkast.
 
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dawks

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Good lord, since the babies here dont have WinRAR, I put zips up too.. even though they only compress about 800k less then the originals (as opposed to 2.8megs for rar).. its better then nothing.

And dont vote if you dont try it please. I think it would be interesting to see how many think they are right and actually blow it.
 
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thraxes

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without listening: YES

but does depend on the music type. acoustic guitar solos are a pretty good benchmark, the differences are more or less obvious, depending on the encoder used.
 
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Alptraum

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Originally posted by: DaZ
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
No zips, huh?

I haven't seen a .rar file in years.
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I didnt know people still use .zip ?
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Heh, I still use .zip. Though I use quite abit of .rar as well among other thing. As far as your question goes, the answer is yes. I can't quote you specifics off the top of my head but for quite awhile my friend has been trying to get me to change the encoder I use. I didnt really believe him at first ( I was using whatever is built in to Audio Catalyst at the time) and usually only played burned CDs in my car or listened to them on my comp. Then I played on on my main stereo (I have put about 15k into it, its VERY accurate). Oh my f**king god! It sounded horrible. That was at 192k. At 256 it sounded much better. Using the encoder he got me into (cant remember which one off the top of my head) it cleared it up much at 192. 128 sounds like total crap either way.

 
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amnesiac

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: DaZ

I didnt know people still use .zip ?
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What? I didn't know people still used .rar.

What's next, .arj?
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What are you smoking?

RAR is a far superior format, and way more widely used for packing large files.

Not only does it have the capacity to be spliced into chunks, but it has FAR superior CRC correction. I take it you haven't heard of PAR or PAR2 either then?
 
UncleWai

UncleWai

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It's a trick, they are both the same!!
Seriously, I say test-x is the better one than test-y.

Just to make life easier, I hosted the two files in .wav in a fast @$$ server

test-x

test-y


Your choice of the sample is not very good, use a song from a symphony and you can easily tell the difference.
 
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Savij

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Well, on all the samples I get a static sound drifting from center to the left channel at about 18 secs in.
 
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dawks

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Originally posted by: UncleWai
It's a trick, they are both the same!!
Seriously, I say test-x is the better one than test-y.

Just to make life easier, I hosted the two files in .wav in a fast @$$ server

test-x

test-y


Your choice of the sample is not very good, use a song from a symphony and you can easily tell the difference.
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I only own rap CD's.. (everyone here would bitch if it was rap :D) and dont know any good songs from my parents collection that would work here...

and no its not a trick :D

also, sorry its slow.. its on my home cable.
 
Chaotic42

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: amnesiac


What are you smoking?

RAR is a far superior format, and way more widely used for packing large files.

Not only does it have the capacity to be spliced into chunks, but it has FAR superior CRC correction. I take it you haven't heard of PAR or PAR2 either then?
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The only compression schemes I use are gzip and bzip2, and I don't really work in the industry, so I'm not well versed in that stuff. As I said before, I haven't seen a .rar file in years.
 
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Savij

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Originally posted by: Savij
Well, on all the samples I get a static sound drifting from center to the left channel at about 18 secs in.
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It's in a few other spots and I keep getting hung up on that static sound
 
Chaotic42

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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Wow, Mozilla is freaking out. It keeps jumping from ~2M downloaded to saying it has 500K down loaded. The download keeps freezing too.

Weird.
 
UncleWai

UncleWai

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: amnesiac


What are you smoking?

RAR is a far superior format, and way more widely used for packing large files.

Not only does it have the capacity to be spliced into chunks, but it has FAR superior CRC correction. I take it you haven't heard of PAR or PAR2 either then?
Click to expand...

The only compression schemes I use are gzip and bzip2, and I don't really work in the industry, so I'm not well versed in that stuff. As I said before, I haven't seen a .rar file in years.
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I assume you don't download any games? You are a good man!!
 
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SHoddyCOmp

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Originally posted by: Savij
Originally posted by: Savij
Well, on all the samples I get a static sound drifting from center to the left channel at about 18 secs in.
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It's in a few other spots and I keep getting hung up on that static sound
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me too, it happens a lot..odd
 
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Savij

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Ok, the static is pronounced enough that i'm going to assume that it's supposed to be there. On test Y at 18 seconds, the static "pops" are more defined and less of a rustle so between X and Y i'm going to have to go with Y. I'm i'm wrong then shoot me :)
 
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