Can you refinace your home loan with your current mortgage company?

TheSiege

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Im at 6.375 and I'd like to go lower if I can, I'm only 1 year into my current mortgage
 

DrVos

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I'm in a similar situation. I refinanced last year at 6.375 and am looking at taking advantage of the 5.48 current avg. There shouldn't be a reason why you can't refinance with your current lender. The only question is if they can make it worth your while. If you end up saving $200/month while paying $2500 in closing costs, then its a no brainer, the refi will pay for itself in a year. If your bank is charging something obscene, then you'll need to figure out if you can recover those costs before you decide to move.

Since you refinanced so recently, your lender may be able to wave some of the closing costs. For instance, I believe my CU will wave my appraisal fee. Some research in the fatwallet finance section indicates that some lenders offer "loan modifications" or "streamline loans" where they wave many of the fees. Who is your current lender through?
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: TheSiege
I never refinanced, i bought the house a year ago

Just be careful and do the math. Just because you get a lower rate doesn't mean it's a good move. There's closing costs (which they love to roll into your mortgage, free money for them) plus your term is another 30 years. Meaning your 30 year mortgage just became a 31, one year down, 30 to go and the amortization starts all over again.

Just call them up and they'll shoot you some numbers to work with.
 

IronWing

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Consider refinancing to a shorter term. With rates low again you can end up with about the same payment but finish years earlier and save huge on interest.

Also, it is sometimes possible to drop PMI with a refinance, saving another bundle.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: TheSiege
I have an 80/20 so i dont have PMI

LOL, watch out for them pushing the home equity line of credit when you go to refinance if you have 20% already in the price of the house. Because they'll want it.

"so, we can refinance you on your principal for another 30 years, waive closing costs (what this really means is add those costs to your principal, for 30 years)...AND! This one time offer give you a home equity line of credit at prime plus 1!!!!!"
 

TheSiege

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: TheSiege
I have an 80/20 so i dont have PMI

LOL, watch out for them pushing the home equity line of credit when you go to refinance if you have 20% already in the price of the house. Because they'll want it.

"so, we can refinance you on your principal for another 30 years, waive closing costs (what this really means is add those costs to your principal, for 30 years)...AND! This one time offer give you a home equity line of credit at prime plus 1!!!!!"

yeah im not that stupid, im not going to get an home equity loan. i dont need it at all
 

Mxylplyx

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Originally posted by: TheSiege
I have an 80/20 so i dont have PMI

I am in the same boat as you with an 80/20. Dont just refinance your first.

Firstly, if your house hasnt appreciated, you can probably forget about it. 100% financing is history at the moment. You wont get a competitive rate when the people refinancing your first find out you are still at 100% CLTV (combined loan to value)

If your house has appreciated, you want to refinance both so you can put more principal into the lower rate on the 1st mortgage. I bought my house at 100% for 250K 1.5 years ago. My original balances were around 200K on the first, and 50K on the second. By refinancing both, after 25K in appreciation, I am getting an additional 20K of principal into the first mortgage, and financing less into the higher rate 2nd, which saves me quite a bit more.
 

TheSiege

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Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Originally posted by: TheSiege
I have an 80/20 so i dont have PMI

I am in the same boat as you with an 80/20. Dont just refinance your first.

Firstly, if your house hasnt appreciated, you can probably forget about it. 100% financing is history at the moment. You wont get a competitive rate when the people refinancing your first find out you are still at 100% CLTV (combined loan to value)

If your house has appreciated, you want to refinance both so you can put more principal into the lower rate on the 1st mortgage. I bought my house at 100% for 250K 1.5 years ago. My original balances were around 200K on the first, and 50K on the second. By refinancing both, after 25K in appreciation, I am getting an additional 20K of principal into the first mortgage, and financing less into the higher rate 2nd, which saves me quite a bit more.

can you elaborate more, I'm kinda confused. My first is 123k @ 6.375% w/29 years remaning and my second is 15.5k @6.8. w/ 14 years remaining.

Thats where the principal stands as of this month. I pay about 1k a month and an extra 50 bucks or so to the principal on the first loan a month which should change my payoff date to November 2027. I bought this house Jan of 07

zillow says my house is worth between 159k and 223k
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: TheSiege
Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Originally posted by: TheSiege
I have an 80/20 so i dont have PMI

I am in the same boat as you with an 80/20. Dont just refinance your first.

Firstly, if your house hasnt appreciated, you can probably forget about it. 100% financing is history at the moment. You wont get a competitive rate when the people refinancing your first find out you are still at 100% CLTV (combined loan to value)

If your house has appreciated, you want to refinance both so you can put more principal into the lower rate on the 1st mortgage. I bought my house at 100% for 250K 1.5 years ago. My original balances were around 200K on the first, and 50K on the second. By refinancing both, after 25K in appreciation, I am getting an additional 20K of principal into the first mortgage, and financing less into the higher rate 2nd, which saves me quite a bit more.

can you elaborate more, I'm kinda confused. My first is 123k @ 6.375% w/29 years remaning and my second is 15.5k @6.8. w/ 14 years remaining.

Thats where the principal stands as of this month. I pay about 1k a month and an extra 50 bucks or so to the principal on the first loan a month which should change my payoff date to November 2027. I bought this house Jan of 07

zillow says my house is worth between 159k and 223k

WHOAH! WHOAH, WHOAH, WHAOH.

You really have a 80/20, I can almost guarantee that your 20 is variable. Please seek advice on financial forums and NOT ATOT. What you're doing is gambling on rates and the housing market in your area and how long you're staying. This is a fine strategy as long as you are outpacing your interest on investment and your location/market can guarantee appreciation, if you're not then you're throwing money away.

It all depends on how long you plan on staying, something which can be beyond your control. Be careful.
 

TheSiege

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: TheSiege
Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Originally posted by: TheSiege
I have an 80/20 so i dont have PMI

I am in the same boat as you with an 80/20. Dont just refinance your first.

Firstly, if your house hasnt appreciated, you can probably forget about it. 100% financing is history at the moment. You wont get a competitive rate when the people refinancing your first find out you are still at 100% CLTV (combined loan to value)

If your house has appreciated, you want to refinance both so you can put more principal into the lower rate on the 1st mortgage. I bought my house at 100% for 250K 1.5 years ago. My original balances were around 200K on the first, and 50K on the second. By refinancing both, after 25K in appreciation, I am getting an additional 20K of principal into the first mortgage, and financing less into the higher rate 2nd, which saves me quite a bit more.

can you elaborate more, I'm kinda confused. My first is 123k @ 6.375% w/29 years remaning and my second is 15.5k @6.8. w/ 14 years remaining.

Thats where the principal stands as of this month. I pay about 1k a month and an extra 50 bucks or so to the principal on the first loan a month which should change my payoff date to November 2027. I bought this house Jan of 07

zillow says my house is worth between 159k and 223k

WHOAH! WHOAH, WHOAH, WHAOH.

You really have a 80/20, I can almost guarantee that your 20 is variable. Please seek advice on financial forums and NOT ATOT. What you're doing is gambling on rates and the housing market in your area and how long you're staying. This is a fine strategy as long as you are outpacing your interest on investment and your location/market can guarantee appreciation, if you're not then you're throwing money away.

It all depends on how long you plan on staying, something which can be beyond your control. Be careful.

I'm looking at the paper work right now, its fixed, and its not 6.8 its actually 6.5. I am 100 percent sure its not variable

 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: TheSiege
I'm looking at the paper work right now, its fixed, and its not 6.8 its actually 6.5. I am 100 percent sure its not variable

That would be unusual. Look closer. Sorry to say you're become a victim of "creative" financing.

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What I mean to say is you have an unusual situation. Your decision to refi on either loan depends on other factors like how long you plan on staying (plans don't always work out). Be careful.
 

TheSiege

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: TheSiege
I'm looking at the paper work right now, its fixed, and its not 6.8 its actually 6.5. I am 100 percent sure its not variable

That would be unusual. Look closer. Sorry to say you're become a victim of "creative" financing.

-edit-
What I mean to say is you have an unusual situation. Your decision to refi on either loan depends on other factors like how long you plan on staying (plans don't always work out). Be careful.

my 20% loan is through my city as part of a redevelopment project. im looking at it right now