can you really get by in europe without a car?

OrganizedChaos

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so the other day i went to the hardware store to get a 20lb propane tank filled. the hardware store was 7 miles away. how would someone in europe handle this? do they get on a subway and just lug the tank around town?

if there putting a new mailbox out front and need a back of quickrete how do they get it home?

how do they get there groceries home?

<--dosen't understand how they do it
 

SLCentral

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
so the other day i went to the hardware store to get a 20lb propane tank filled. the hardware store was 7 miles away. how would someone in europe handle this? do they get on a subway and just lug the tank around town?

if there putting a new mailbox out front and need a back of quickrete how do they get it home?

how do they get there groceries home?

<--dosen't understand how they do it

Well, they first begin with being able to write using correct grammar :).

Topic Title: can you really get by in europe without a car?
Topic Summary: how do they manage to do anything done.



Regarding cars in Europe, it all depends on where you live. If you live in the middle of nowhere, you'll need a car. If you live in a European city, much like in NYC/LA/etc., no, you do not need a car.
 

Muzzan

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Um, first of all, not every European lacks a car. But even if a particular European did (although I don't see why this question is not about car-less people in general), they could for instance have had the Quickcrete delivered to their home, and borrowed a friend's car to lug the propane tank around. Or maybe they simply never put themselves into situations where a car is absolutely required (e.g., if you choose to live in an apartment you don't have to put up your own mailbox). That's clearly possible, since many people do it.
 

Shlong

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Yup, you'll just have to check out their culture. It's mind-blogging to some suburban americans how you can live without a car.
 

flexy

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when i lived in Europe, some mid-sized cities and then in berlin (about as big as chicago) - there was a bus/subway station literally across my street.

With the exception of midnight to 4:00 am (where only two lines were going) there was a subway each 10mins going and you can reach ANY part of the city pretty quick.

Also...lol...you sound like 20 (!) lbs of whatevever is a big deal for you....20lbs.....maybe make another thread and ask the same question when you have to carry something weighing 100lbs+.....an average shopping bag might be 20lbs already...so what's the big deal ? :)

Also..many europeans DO have cars....but as said w/ the example of a bigger-city (compare to NYC here)...why need a car when you can go anywhere 24/7 without it ? Dont even compare public tranportation in EU with anything here, its' no comparison AT ALL...neither is comparing some city in EU w/ somewhere in the suburbs in the states.







 

clickynext

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For starters if they didn't have a car then they're more likely to live close to everything they need. And if they weren't close, there are a few means, including borrowing a car or taking a taxi.
 

ndee

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Of course you go grocery shopping with the car. But for commuting, I think we use alot more public transportation than you guys.
 

GTaudiophile

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After having lived in Berlin and been back many times, I would say yes, but only in certain cities in certain countries. Berlin has perhaps one of the best public systems in the world. I could easily live there without a car. I could go from my doorstep in Berlin to my doorstep in Munich without a car too.
 

miri

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
so the other day i went to the hardware store to get a 20lb propane tank filled. the hardware store was 7 miles away. how would someone in europe handle this? do they get on a subway and just lug the tank around town?

if there putting a new mailbox out front and need a back of quickrete how do they get it home?

how do they get there groceries home?

<--dosen't understand how they do it

European cities are much more densely populated. I used to live in Seville, a large city and I could walk the length of the entire city easily if I wanted to. Also there are subways, busses and cabs everywhere.

No subways in Seville though.

Theres usually a grocery store within walking distance since it is so densely populated there.
 

imported_Phil

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I think the OP fails to comprehend how absurdly big America is to the rest of the world.

Also, 20lbs? I leave behind a quarter of that every morning. What are you, some sort of 80lb weakling?

[Edit] Check the following that you are familiar with:

[ ] Bus
[ ] Train
[ ] Taxi
[ ] Bicycle
[ ] Motorbike
[ ] Friend with car
[ ] Home delivery
[ ] Feet
[ ] African swallow
[ ] Pizza
 

Turkish

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I lived in Germany for a while and didn't need a car. I took the train, bus, cab or simply WALKED. I know walking is a foreign subject to the majority of Americans but hey, you all can walk :p Also, bikes with baskets infront or rear = awesome for grocery shopping :)
 

Biggerhammer

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If you buy something that's not practical to bring home on the bus, you call a taxi. It ain't brain surgery :)