Can you OC a Celeron?

[21stHermit]

Celerons have a 400MHz FSB instead of a P4's 800 FSB. It would seem that this would give you more OC headroom. The critters sure are cheap compared to a P4.

In what applications would you most notice the 1/4 size cache memory?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: 21stHermit
Celerons have a 400MHz FSB instead of a P4's 800 FSB. It would seem that this would give you more OC headroom. The critters sure are cheap compared to a P4.

There's a reason for that - mostly the cache neutering. I really haven't heard much on that field of the P4 Celeron overclock.

In what applications would you most notice the 1/4 size cache memory?

Anything more complex than IE, Solitare, or Outlook Express.

- M4H

 

[Yomicron]

When the 2.0GHz 0.13um Celerons were released, Tom's overclocked one to 3GHz @600MHz FSB. It still sucked.

Also, be sure to read AnandTech's Budget CPU Shootout: Clash of the 'rons to see just how bad the desktop celerons are.

 

[formulav8]

I really feel bad for the people that buy those cpu's. My grandfather bought a Dell laptop with the 2.4ghz Celeron and it is truely a dog. Intel really should do something. Those cpu's are just sad.


Jason

 

[jhites]

You can but I would not bother.

 

[Yomicron]

Originally posted by: formulav8
I really feel bad for the people that buy those cpu's. My grandfather bought a Dell laptop with the 2.4ghz Celeron and it is truely a dog. Intel really should do something. Those cpu's are just sad.


Jason

On the up side, the mobile Celerons have 256KB of cache, so they'll be some what faster.

 

[PaveHawk]

Originally posted by: Yomicron

Originally posted by: formulav8
I really feel bad for the people that buy those cpu's. My grandfather bought a Dell laptop with the 2.4ghz Celeron and it is truely a dog. Intel really should do something. Those cpu's are just sad.


Jason

On the up side, the mobile Celerons have 256KB of cache, so they'll be some what faster.

Indeed. My cheap Toshiba laptop has a 1.5 Ghz Celeron with 256k of L2 cache and it clearly beats (crunching Seti WU's) a desktop 2.6-2.7 Ghz with 128k of L2.

 

[CraigRT]

Celerons are junk.. i mean, the best possible item for a keychain

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: Yomicron
When the 2.0GHz 0.13um Celerons were released, Tom's overclocked one to 3GHz @600MHz FSB. It still sucked.

Also, be sure to read AnandTech's Budget CPU Shootout: Clash of the 'rons to see just how bad the desktop celerons are.

Thank you . . . Clash of the `rons was a Good read, helped me to understand more about pipelines, cache and that GHz ain't everything.

 

[MDE]

You can do it, but I'd rather use a macerated celery stalk as a CPU.

 

[PliotronX]

Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress
You can do it, but I'd rather use a macerated celery stalk as a CPU.

With extra peanut butter! Yum! (that is before the macerating )

 

[Bleep]

The orignal celrons had NO cache at all. Now that was a dog.

Bleep

 

[PliotronX]

Originally posted by: Bleep
The orignal celrons had NO cache at all. Now that was a dog.

Bleep

Yup, but Intel swiftly added on-die cache and made it the best deal ever (for overclocking ). This time around, the P4-Celery went through the revision to the Northwood core and it's still fcuking horrible. It's not worth the silicon it's printed on (to quote someone from the CPU forum ). Here's to hoping the next P4-Celery proves to be useful.

 

[mooojojojo]

Regarding the overclock headroom - I run my 2GHz at 2.66GHz with no changes other than bumping up the FSB to 533MHz. Stock Intel HSF, no case fans, no voltage increases.