Can you do the "Karate Kid" kick ?

[hoihtah]

i just tried to do this...

and managed to kick and come back down on the same feet...

all while sitting in my office chair.

 

[LiLRiceBoi]

<< Used to be able to pull a 360 roundhouse. That's where you jump off your right leg, spin a full 360, kick, and land on your right leg. Could also pull a flying side kick to spin back (in the air obviously), a split kick to round, and the only Chinese guy 5'9" who could grab rim. Then I tore my ACL, gained the freshmen 15 and then some, and could never fly again. >>



Damn, you WERE crazy... too bad about tha ACL...

Nope, cant do it.

 

[Nocturnal]

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[StageLeft]

I'd likely snap my spine but yes.

 

[spanky]

<< Used to be able to pull a 360 roundhouse. That's where you jump off your right leg, spin a full 360, kick, and land on your right leg. Could also pull a flying side kick to spin back (in the air obviously), a split kick to round, and the only Chinese guy 5'9" who could grab rim. Then I tore my ACL, gained the freshmen 15 and then some, and could never fly again. >>




me too. i used to play double dragon on NES all the time....

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Of course.

It's not practical AT ALL, either. You know EXACTLY what the other guy is going to do. Besides... you're practically immobile until you actually go through with the kick. And, if you have to move quickly to get out of the way of a sweep or flying side kick or something, you have to take time to set up all over again. Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid.

When I fight, I fight like a panther. You don't convey your thoughts (which that kick does); you don't tell what you're going to do before you do it -and that kick is like holding up a giant neon sign. If you know how to evade a front kick in any way (which is something taught in the first class at my school, then the kick is useless anyway. Front kicks are supposed to be quick kicks thrown in between combos.

nik

 

[virtuamike]

<< Of course.

It's not practical AT ALL, either. You know EXACTLY what the other guy is going to do. Besides... you're practically immobile until you actually go through with the kick. And, if you have to move quickly to get out of the way of a sweep or flying side kick or something, you have to take time to set up all over again. Stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid.

When I fight, I fight like a panther. You don't convey your thoughts (which that kick does); you don't tell what you're going to do before you do it -and that kick is like holding up a giant neon sign. If you know how to evade a front kick in any way (which is something taught in the first class at my school, then the kick is useless anyway. Front kicks are supposed to be quick kicks thrown in between combos. >>



Yeah, that kick is pretty damn impractical, would never use that when point sparring. Front kicks are great for setups though, used to use them a lot, combo front-leg fronts with back-leg rounds into some spin kicks, very clean combo for aggressive kickers. Sparring is like Counter-strike, you're harder to hit if you're always on the move. Favorite tactic was to move into people, meaning if someone kicks I don't move back or strafe, I move in so they don't have time to get in another kick and I can throw them off balance with a knee to the stomach or a quick punch to the head. Once you get them off balance you can pull whatever fancy kick you can think of. Man I loved sparring but the knee just won't take it anymore.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

I used to get in trouble all the time for breaking the rules. Kicks to the legs and punches to the head weren't allowed in the World Taekwondo Federation's full contact match rules. When I'd get front kicks, I'd grab and hold the shin under the same-side arm, sweep the other leg, advance, and land a heel to the chest. Eventually I got taught my lesson, though. The school teacher (a fifth degree) decided to jump up while I was holding his other leg and knee me in the stomach

The only things front kicks are really good for is actually landing a hit on (and embarrassing) a white belt, or getting the other person to dodge, right into the position you want them in for your real combo.

nik

 

[virtuamike]

LOL kicks to the legs. Used to do the same thing, soon as I see their foot come up for a kick I advance and give them a nice kick in the shins, stopped the kick real fast. I never swept or tried to take someone's leg out from under them though, too high-risk for injury, seen a lot of knees and ankles get torn up.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Well, what you can do is advance with your front leg, and plant it behind the leg they have still on the ground. When you're advancing with their leg under your arm and your leg behind their root, they fall. If you're in a fight though, a swift kick to the root knee to shatter it is quicker and preferred.

nik

 

[DAPUNISHER]

That kick is garbage :disgust: You try that crap and you'll get your leg broke off then beat to death with it
<< The only things front kicks are really good for is actually landing a hit on (and embarrassing) a white belt, or getting the other person to dodge, right into the position you want them in for your real combo. >>

I don't agree with this statement as there is a time and place in sparring when a properly executed thrust front kick can do major damage. Are you a blackbelt? I ask because I've fought guys so fast catching their leg is not an option.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

No, I'm not a blackbelt. But I've taken two of them in the ring at the same time and beaten both.

nik

 

[Danman]

Hell no.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Yeah yeah everyone's a bada$$ I presume your talking about TKD BBs because you can get it in 18months in most those places. Besides it's not the belt as you already know but the skill level and training habits of the person wearing it. Personaly, I stopped belt training more than a decade ago(shodan in several styles incl. Kenpo, shotokan) but still stay actively involved though sport karate is no longer the focus.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Haha That's GREAT that you're that spread out in your arts. That's what I'm aiming for. And, yes, these are TKD BB's. But my school isn't one of those "family" schools. It's a dedicated black belt school. If you hit every single testing period on time, my school won't give you a black belt for 3 - 4 yrs. Some people take longer because they miss class after class and can't make them up in time for testing.

nik

 

[DAPUNISHER]

<< Haha That's GREAT that you're that spread out in your arts. That's what I'm aiming for. And, yes, these are TKD BB's. But my school isn't one of those "family" schools. It's a dedicated black belt school. If you hit every single testing period on time, my school won't give you a black belt for 3 - 4 yrs. Some people take longer because they miss class after class and can't make them up in time for testing.

nik >>

Damn! that is unusual for TKD :Q I guess they're not ATA huh? Also, do you guys allow hands to the head when doing kumite in class?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

WTF - World Taekwondo Federation
Well, during class when demonstration is going on or something, hands to the head are allowed, but never an actual strike. Punching, slapping, knife-hand, knife-jab style stuff isn't allowed. But with Hapkido and such, we learn all kinds of face/neck/head strikes. They're just not allowed in point sparring or full contact nights.

nik

 

[Desturel]

I took pure Akido for 3 years. Got tired of getting beat. So I gave up.
Yah, I know I'm a wuss. At least I can still break fall. Also, since Akido is 90% defensive, I can avoid alot of crap that would have knocked me on my butt. It's fun knowing most of the major pressure points on the body and being able to take down someone larger than you. Just so long as I'm not the one starting the fight that is. I never did get offense down (which is why I got beat for 3 years).

 

[DAPUNISHER]

<< But with Hapkido and such, we learn all kinds of face/neck/head strikes. They're just not allowed in point sparring or full contact nights. >>

Cool, and it makes sense for insurance reasons as well. Although I always found the best way to improve my defense was getting drilled with a particular technique as the pain and injuries resulted in your tremendous desire to not get hit with it again You guys practice throws and grappling in Hapkido right?

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Those who say yes are lieing. Personally, I am jealous of those who are able to do so. Can't do it, not flexible enough.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

<< I took pure Akido for 3 years. Got tired of getting beat. So I gave up.
Yah, I know I'm a wuss. At least I can still break fall. Also, since Akido is 90% defensive, I can avoid alot of crap that would have knocked me on my butt. It's fun knowing most of the major pressure points on the body and being able to take down someone larger than you. Just so long as I'm not the one starting the fight that is. I never did get offense down (which is why I got beat for 3 years). >>

Worked out for a few years with a guy named Bruce Willis(not the actor) who did aki-jutsu and picked up some real "pearls" from him, quick, simple, effective. You should try some other styles, think of it like Felix the Cat and his bag of tricks, he never seemed to run out of tricks did he?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

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<< But with Hapkido and such, we learn all kinds of face/neck/head strikes. They're just not allowed in point sparring or full contact nights. >>

Cool, and it makes sense for insurance reasons as well. Although I always found the best way to improve my defense was getting drilled with a particular technique as the pain and injuries resulted in your tremendous desire to not get hit with it again You guys practice throws and grappling in Hapkido right? >>

Absolutely. Initially, when I joined, I was more of a grappling fighter than anything. If I got into a fight, I didn't keep any distance at all and did things like controlled joint flexing, etc. into submission. But in the ring, there, it's forbidden. So I learned to love Hapkido. But the essentials of Hapkido isn't really drawn out fights, they're quick stunns/kills that are supposed to be, basically, muscle memory instinct by the time you're BB.

Things like, someone grabbing your wrist or neck, a thought later, they're on the ground in pain while you're running away, totally under your control and in pain while you're waiting for authorities, or something like that. Or when someone comes up behind you and puts you in a headlock, within a fraction of a second, I'm out of the headlock and they're on the ground unconscious. I learned that kind of thing starting from white belt, and it's taught all the way up to black and beyond as sort of a parallel to the official training of TKD.

But I became good friends with my school's Sabumnim so he would teach me little things before and after class that were our little secret. Things like fighting dirty, cheating, and disfigurement. The kind of things that a noble and honorable fighter doesn't use. Oh well. It's nice to know that I can pop your eyeball and rip off half your face of with three fingers and 1.5 seconds.

nik

 

[DAPUNISHER]

<< Those who say yes are lieing. Personally, I am jealous of those who are able to do so. Can't do it, not flexible enough. >>

Don't bother learning that crap, pick up some nice choke holds, wrist&ankle locks, open/closed hand strikes, and throws/takedowns and you'll do very well against the flying faleenie brothers circus act style of martial artist.

 

[Orsorum]

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[DAPUNISHER]

<< like fighting dirty, cheating, and disfigurement. The kind of things that a noble and honorable fighter doesn't use. Oh well. It's nice to know that I can pop your eyeball and rip off half your face of with three fingers and 1.5 seconds. >>

There is no such thing as dirty and cheating in combat, surely he told you this? If your unable to avoid conflict then the others intentions must be considered to be deadly and therefore anything you do to thwart their attempt on your life is perfectly exceptable. Read
Go Rin No Sho if you haven't already as Musashi eschewed "fair" fighting and consequently became a great warrior who his people now revere for his skill/teachings.