Can you actually make a Career out of Walmart or McDonalds?

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mmntech

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It's entirely possible, if you want it. A lot of places do prefer to hire internally. Working in the office at Walmart or McDick's probably isn't too bad. Thing is that there's just a lot more people on the bottom rung of the front line than there are jobs available hire up. Plus a lot of office jobs now require a degree where they previously didn't. Though I think it balances out due to the high turnaround at the bottom. Most of those folks can't be bothered having a go at it.
 

bbhaag

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McDonalds does have a manager training track and even a Hamburger U.

When I worked at Sears as a service tech in the automotive department they had a program similar to this. Basically you read through the material took some tests and did some on the job training. Once you completed enough of the program you moved to a tech 2, tech 3 ect until you topped out at 4. Who knows what they did if they thought you were good enough for management.

The manager turn over rate at the store I worked at was insane though. One every 6 to 12 months.

I can't imagine the pressure that corps put on low to mid level managers that are expected to meet certain sales expectations.
 

JEDI

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Just curious?

If you were to get a job there as a low cashier I imagine the turnover there is soo high you can probably make manager in a year?

Do they have manager training tracks?

go work for Costco if u want mgmt track.

managers make 6 figures at super walmart.
asst mgr makes ~$75k.

if u want career walmart, be a dept head (but not CSR mgr).
 

Brovane

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My wife spent several years working at Big 5 and before she left she was a head cashier at one. It was a full time job with benefits but it still paid crap. She told me at Big 5 at the time the Store Managers could make around $50-60k but the job sucked because you worked a lot of hours and around Christmas it got even worse. Since you where salary you just had to suck it up and work the hours. Also the pay didn't vary between locations so the Big 5 Manager in Bakersfield made the same as the Big 5 Manager in San Jose. I heard that actually Trader Joe's actually has a decent career path and also the Container Store. Some people make a career out of it.
 

JEDI

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Oh yeah, and some people do. Turnover is very high, so anyone smarter than a board that applies themself to the job will be promoted quickly. Granted, a shift manager will still only pull in about $20k per year, and even general managers can only hope for about $45k. Oh and all that's if you work ~40 hours per week and almost every restaurant limits employee hours, ~25 hours per week for the grunts, ~35 to ~45 hours for the people they rely on, but the tightasses will clamp down if you go over 40 hours very often at all. Also you get no vacation time, and the store is (typically) open 364.5 days per year. Last, if minimum wage ever raises, you won't get a raise unless the new minimum is higher than your old pay rate, in which case you'll earn the new minimum same as any slack-jawed retard.

TLDR
The best position you can quickly (over a year or two at the most) move up to is Shift Manager, and here's their pay.
http://www.glassdoor.com/Hourly-Pay/McDonald-s-Shift-Manager-Hourly-Pay-E432_D_KO11,24.htm

A person could, in theory, make GM eventually, but that would probably take five years at a minimum and even that pays poorly, considering how many hours and how much stress is involved.
http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/McDonald-s-General-Manager-Salaries-E432_D_KO11,26.htm

Paging Train

(Train was GM at a FL mcd franchise)
 

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I know a woman who went to Hamburger University and was going to be a manager of a franchise but when the USPS hired her as a clerk the starting wage was more than she was going to get at McDs and the franchisees wouldn't match the pay.
 

Engineer

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Thousands of people already do. :hmm::rolleyes:

I guess not all of the people who work there consider it a "career" but Walmart employs 1.4 million people in the US. It might actually be millions instead of thousands....and increasing as we ship more jobs out or eliminate them via other means.
 

Zorkorist

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I guess not all of the people who work there consider it a "career" but Walmart employs 1.4 million people in the US. It might actually be millions instead of thousands....and increasing as we ship more jobs out or eliminate them via other means.
And they work harder, than we ever used to. Their activities are tracked by sensors. Their interactions with customers are recorded on multiple levels.

This is not what anyone would ever hope to do for a career.

-John
 

Leros

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I used to know a guy that was a department manager at Wal-Mart for about 10 years. He made somewhere between $30-50k and had full benefits. Not a bad option for somebody with no education, IMO.
 

NoTine42

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go work for Costco if u want mgmt track.

managers make 6 figures at super walmart.
asst mgr makes ~$75k.

if u want career walmart, be a dept head (but not CSR mgr).

Based on what I heard about Menards 10 years ago, I was thinking most large retail store managers were making 6 figures....but you are basically working 60 hour weeks with lots of evening and weekend hours, have to be willing to move as often as the company asks, and not only deal with the employees, but also deal with crazy customers when their $20k special order didn't look exactly what was in their mind.
 

JEDI

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Based on what I heard about Menards 10 years ago, I was thinking most large retail store managers were making 6 figures....but you are basically working 60 hour weeks with lots of evening and weekend hours, have to be willing to move as often as the company asks, and not only deal with the employees, but also deal with crazy customers when their $20k special order didn't look exactly what was in their mind.

crazy customers- that's the csr mgr's job. the over mgr or even the asst mgr don't usually deal w/the peasants.
thus why I said dept head is an ok career job EXCEPT csr :p
 

yllus

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Store managers at Best Buy made $75k+ with ease when I worked there in the early 2000s. The compensation was heavily bonus-based, though, so it was all about selling lots of stuff while minimizing returns and losses through other means (breaking stuff, theft). A district manager (3+ stores, on the road a lot between them) was nearer to six figures.

I enjoyed retail. The pay didn't justify the never-ending hassle to sell extended warranties on everything, but I genuinely liked trying to find a customer something that they needed and to give them a good experience. My store manager(s) always cut me slack because even if I declined to hawk warranties as much as others, customers enjoyed the store experience when they ended up with me.
 
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tcsenter

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There are always opportunities in or associated with almost any workplace. People think too linearly inside the same organization.

e.g. I worked in the medical field, patient care, and got to know a few medical product sales reps who made $$$. Given my experience and training, was in a better position to know the application and operation of the device or product than some of the sales people who never actually worked in the patient care setting. I considered sales before having to give-up working altogether due to health problems.
 

Red Squirrel

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You can, problem is even the management jobs don't pay much. Most of those jobs don't even make enough money to live a proper life. (ex: having a house) Don't even think about having a new car, but I see that more as a luxery, a car is just to get you to work, the grocery store, friends, and other places. As long as it runs who really cares how nice or new it is when a 5k used car will do the same job, but a house is where you live, so you want that to be decent.

You could work those places and while you are there you will be able to possibly get an idea of how the franchise works, so you can open your own later down the line, though though typically the franchise company wont let you open one if there is already one in your city. You don't see more than 1 walmart in the same city. On the other hand something like Tim Hortons you can pretty much have one at every intersection lol. So depends on the specific franchise and their rules I guess. You can look at opening something that does not exist in your city though and that will attract lot of people, at least at first, because it's something new. Doing that requires tons of startup capital though. If you actually have that kind of money you are probably better off just retiring off it.
 
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