Can websites not allow you to unsubscribe from their mailing lists?

50

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Hello, I signed up for this site to get free movie tickets in the summer. I've repeatedly tried to remove myself from their list as I've moved and their promotions do not apply anymore. When I e-mailed them they said

NO
You agreed to the TERMS & CONDITIONS upon enterening each and every contest and you will NOT BE REMOVED!

Can they do this?

This is the only link I could find for terms and conditions.

READ below the responses these morons gave me.
 

Tobolo

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I don't believe so, but I dont know who would handle such things.

EDIT: I just read the ToS and I don't know what the crap he is claiming. Just you want to be removed from any ongoing and future promotions and want you email removed from the mailing list, as stated in you ToS.
 

MrBond

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Does it actually say that in the Terms and Conditions?

It can't be that hard to block the sender at the server, can it? I did that with Ticketmaster once because it used to be near-impossible to unsubscribe from their newsletter.
 

50

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The link above is the only link for privacy when you sign up for the newsletter. I am not going to let them win and make me change my e-mail address. This is ridiculous and I thought every site had to have an unsubscribe link. Anyone know of the legality of this?
 

DrPizza

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Reply back to them that their terms of service don't trump state and federal laws. i.e. if the terms of service say "if you forget to open your email daily, we have the right to kill you" does not make it legal to kill you. You may want to point that out, and point to a few cases were spammers got slammed with lawsuits, and that "this is my final request to remove me. If you continue to send me spam, I intend to have this matter pursued by my state's attorney general."
 

50

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I got a response when I asked for the where the terms and services are located

THEY ARE ON EVERY PAGE OF EVERY CONTEST, both movies and DVD promotions.

This is a link to one of the promotions.
Opting out of the newsletter/DPOTD e-mail automatically voids all past, present and future entries of yours on the WAM website.

What will it take to get these retards to let me opt out? I am going to try DrPizza's suggestion
 

50

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Here's another response I received:
GET REAL. Listen up Chang, here's the deal. You agreed to our TERMS & CONDITIONS upon entering and all contests on the Wild About Movies site. We're gladly REMOVING you from our database (which can take up to 30 days) but if we find any further entries from or by you we will press charges against the person to whom the email address is registered.
Also, since our database is SO extensive, we have no control over anyone posting your info on our site. With your horrible attitude, I am sure you have many enemies.

On another note, anyone who doesn't want free movie screening passes and/or DVDs must be a certifiable nutcase, of which I am sure you are.

Tim Nasson
PUBLISHER
Wild About Movies


This is absolutely ridiculous. I want to report this person and do as much as I can to put an end to this. Can anyone help?
 

thecrecarc

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Originally posted by: 50
Here's another response I received:
GET REAL. Listen up Chang, here's the deal. You agreed to our TERMS & CONDITIONS upon entering and all contests on the Wild About Movies site. We're gladly REMOVING you from our database (which can take up to 30 days) but if we find any further entries from or by you we will press charges against the person to whom the email address is registered.
Also, since our database is SO extensive, we have no control over anyone posting your info on our site. With your horrible attitude, I am sure you have many enemies.

On another note, anyone who doesn't want free movie screening passes and/or DVDs must be a certifiable nutcase, of which I am sure you are.

Tim Nasson
PUBLISHER
Wild About Movies


This is absolutely ridiculous. I want to report this person and do as much as I can to put an end to this. Can anyone help?

damn thats rude. sucks dude
 
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Originally posted by: 50
Here's another response I received:
GET REAL. Listen up Chang, here's the deal. You agreed to our TERMS & CONDITIONS upon entering and all contests on the Wild About Movies site. We're gladly REMOVING you from our database (which can take up to 30 days) but if we find any further entries from or by you we will press charges against the person to whom the email address is registered.
Also, since our database is SO extensive, we have no control over anyone posting your info on our site. With your horrible attitude, I am sure you have many enemies.

On another note, anyone who doesn't want free movie screening passes and/or DVDs must be a certifiable nutcase, of which I am sure you are.

Tim Nasson
PUBLISHER
Wild About Movies


This is absolutely ridiculous. I want to report this person and do as much as I can to put an end to this. Can anyone help?

With a response like that, you should contact your State AG. File a complaint about the threat to release private information or something like that.

I guess the only thing to say would be use a junk email address next time for stuff like this.
 

Savij

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: 50
Here's another response I received:
GET REAL. Listen up Chang, here's the deal. You agreed to our TERMS & CONDITIONS upon entering and all contests on the Wild About Movies site. We're gladly REMOVING you from our database (which can take up to 30 days) but if we find any further entries from or by you we will press charges against the person to whom the email address is registered.
Also, since our database is SO extensive, we have no control over anyone posting your info on our site. With your horrible attitude, I am sure you have many enemies.

On another note, anyone who doesn't want free movie screening passes and/or DVDs must be a certifiable nutcase, of which I am sure you are.

Tim Nasson
PUBLISHER
Wild About Movies


This is absolutely ridiculous. I want to report this person and do as much as I can to put an end to this. Can anyone help?

With a response like that, you should contact your State AG. File a complaint about the threat to release private information or something like that.

I guess the only thing to say would be use a junk email address next time for stuff like this.

Outlook rule: when you get one of his emails send a reponse back saying that you received another email and you want out.
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: 50
Here's another response I received:
GET REAL. Listen up Chang, here's the deal. You agreed to our TERMS & CONDITIONS upon entering and all contests on the Wild About Movies site. We're gladly REMOVING you from our database (which can take up to 30 days) but if we find any further entries from or by you we will press charges against the person to whom the email address is registered.
Also, since our database is SO extensive, we have no control over anyone posting your info on our site. With your horrible attitude, I am sure you have many enemies.

On another note, anyone who doesn't want free movie screening passes and/or DVDs must be a certifiable nutcase, of which I am sure you are.

Tim Nasson
PUBLISHER
Wild About Movies


This is absolutely ridiculous. I want to report this person and do as much as I can to put an end to this. Can anyone help?

I don't know if we (Symantec Brightmail) treat these guys as spammers currently, but I did send the thread over to the BLOC folks to take a look at these folks behavoiur.

 

Old Hippie

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On another note, anyone who doesn't want free movie screening passes and/or DVDs must be a certifiable nutcase,
So, you want to continue getting the free stuff without being on their mailing list?
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: MrChad
http://www.spamlaws.com/federal/can-spam.shtml

My understanding is that they are required to allow you to opt-out of unsolicited email.

Yes but the email he is getting isnt unsolicited. He solicited it and now wants out. They arent breaking any laws, nor could he sue them. He should have just used a junkmail filter. Hes going to need it anyways. Once you subsribe to one, you are in for a deluge of spam.
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: Wreckem
Originally posted by: MrChad
http://www.spamlaws.com/federal/can-spam.shtml

My understanding is that they are required to allow you to opt-out of unsolicited email.

Yes but the email he is getting isnt unsolicited. He solicited it and now wants out. They arent breaking any laws, nor could he sue them. He should have just used a junkmail filter. Hes going to need it anyways. Once you subsribe to one, you are in for a deluge of spam.

Which makes it unsolicted under US law. If he's in the US CANSPAM:

"The CAN-SPAM Act applies to essentially all businesses in the US that use e-mail. It defines a "commercial electronic mail message" -- which is regulated by this law -- as any e-mail message "the primary purpose of which is the commercial advertisement or promotion of a commercial product or service (including content on an Internet website operated for a commercial purpose)" (Sec. 3(2)). Nearly any business e-mail would be covered -- e-mail newsletters as well as standalone promotional e-mails. That doesn't mean that all your e-mails are spam, only that the Act governs them. Personal e-mails (and perhaps non-profit organizations) don't seem to be covered. The Act's definition of commercial e-mail explicitly excludes "a transactional or relationship message" (Sec. 3(2)(B)), covering e-mails contacting customers about their accounts, product upgrades, ongoing services, etc."

These newletters are not bonafide relationship mails.

"It requires that your email give recipients an opt-out method. You must provide a return email address or another Internet-based response mechanism that allows a recipient to ask you not to send future email messages to that email address, and you must honor the requests. You may create a "menu" of choices to allow a recipient to opt out of certain types of messages, but you must include the option to end any commercial messages from the sender."

If you don't know the laws, don't post like you do.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: Old Hippie
On another note, anyone who doesn't want free movie screening passes and/or DVDs must be a certifiable nutcase,
So, you want to continue getting the free stuff without being on their mailing list?

No. He moved so their promotions don't apply to him now. Thus, he wants out of the mailing list.