Can we now please get rid of Affirmative Action?

[classy]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Pneumothorax
Now that we have an African-American in the highest position in the land, should we get rid of affirmative action?

Affirmative action is what got us a black president in the first place! The guy has no experience or qualifications for the position, yet, he was voted in because of its historical impact.

You know years I heard whites use that term......what is it.....Yea thats right

GET OVER IT! lol

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
I'm all for making it illegal for employers to ask for race, religion, sexual orientation, or any other personal information that could be used to discriminate. That is the definition of equality.

Hay somebody actually gets it. Good for you. Talking about racism is racist . The word shouldn't even exist. Last night took me by surprize. I wasn't exspecting the race thing to come up so much. I was really pissed . My wife who voted for Obama said whats up. First of all tho his speech sounded good there were aspects that bother me. As time passses and I see the developments I will point them out. But anyway Wife said I don't get it. You said McCain didn't have a chance. I said just listen to whats being said. Whats with all the race talk. Today she said hay I am already sick of this . Than she said . I thought we were the supposed racist . I said me to . Hay the light is shining now. Even my son a hugh Obama fan. Is asking whats all the racist talk about. I said . Well go to the libary and get a book on how shrinks figure out who has what problems. He has been elected for one day . and allready 2 family members have seen the trueth. Thank you Obama. .

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
I'm all for making it illegal for employers to ask for race, religion, sexual orientation, or any other personal information that could be used to discriminate. That is the definition of equality.

Hay somebody actually gets it. Good for you. Talking about racism is racist . The word shouldn't even exist. Last night took me by surprize. I wasn't exspecting the race thing to come up so much. I was really pissed . My wife who voted for Obama said whats up. First of all tho his speech sounded good there were aspects that bother me. As time passses and I see the developments I will point them out. But anyway Wife said I don't get it. You said McCain didn't have a chance. I said just listen to whats being said. Whats with all the race talk. Today she said hay I am already sick of this . Than she said . I thought we were the supposed racist . I said me to . Hay the light is shining now. Even my son a hugh Obama fan. Is asking whats all the racist talk about. I said . Well go to the libary and get a book on how shrinks figure out who has what problems. He has been elected for one day . and allready 2 family members have seen the trueth. Thank you Obama. .

if you ignore the past the same mistakes will repeat themselves. your fear is still getting the best of you.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Opposing it or supporting it means to hurt others. However, Affirmative Action is basically opposition to Asians.

Affirmative Action hurts Asians the most, not the majority whites like most people think. Asian enrollment has increased substantially in institutions that drop Affirmative Action. One of the best examples of this is UC Berkeley. Asians remain one of the most politically disenfranchised groups. They earn some of the highest incomes yet are barely politically represented. I have no doubt some of this is due to Affirmative Action.

Diversity in education is still important though.

What would America do without Asians?

So many non-PC jokes with that setup. Probably the wrong crowd though.


Making a decision on race is wrong. Period. You can't have it both ways.

Bleh, people get offended too easily.

Seriously, so many Asians (East Asians and Indians) are engineers, researchers, doctors, etc. We're probably the most under appreciated ethnic group in the United States.

No, everytime someone calls Dell tech support, they appeciate them.

(ok, I did it, forgive me)

Keeps prices low which is what the public demands, but I guess that's getting off topic.

Affirmative Action supporters: has affirmative action really worked to help certain minority groups get ahead? I'm not entirely against the concept myself, but it clearly hasn't worked. The problems go deeper than just to "level out" the playing field.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
I'm all for making it illegal for employers to ask for race, religion, sexual orientation, or any other personal information that could be used to discriminate. That is the definition of equality.

Hay somebody actually gets it. Good for you. Talking about racism is racist . The word shouldn't even exist. Last night took me by surprize. I wasn't exspecting the race thing to come up so much. I was really pissed . My wife who voted for Obama said whats up. First of all tho his speech sounded good there were aspects that bother me. As time passses and I see the developments I will point them out. But anyway Wife said I don't get it. You said McCain didn't have a chance. I said just listen to whats being said. Whats with all the race talk. Today she said hay I am already sick of this . Than she said . I thought we were the supposed racist . I said me to . Hay the light is shining now. Even my son a hugh Obama fan. Is asking whats all the racist talk about. I said . Well go to the libary and get a book on how shrinks figure out who has what problems. He has been elected for one day . and allready 2 family members have seen the trueth. Thank you Obama. .

Je ne comprends pas...

 

[AliasX]

But Obama wants even more handouts for blacks...

 

[ra990]

I think AA is there to counter racism at a more local level. Most Americans are not racist and that is what Obama's victory shows to the world. But, that one guy who runs that one small company might be.

 

[AliasX]

He might be... but he also might not be. It is just as likely that a black CEO will be racist against whites. IS it the government's job to take care of every single little possibility of racism for the blacks, and leave the whites to their defenses?

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: HomerJS
Sounds good but too tough to prove in court. Remember that University of Chicago study where resumes were send out to companies. Qualifications were the same but a group had obviously black sounding names. That group got a 50% lower call back rate.

It's trivial to make applications blind (i.e. the names are never associated by the reviewers). I agree that it's not the easiest thing to implement, but it's how things should be.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: AliasX
But Obama wants even more handouts for blacks...

well he said today he is the president of all americans.
I have no problem taking him t his word at this point.
Were stuck with him. at least give him a chance, he may suprise us.

 

[QueBert]

I would gather that more than once in his life, probably more than a few times, maybe dozens of times Obama has been on the receiving end of racial profiling. The beautiful thing about America is you can be educated, rich & well to do but if you're Black you're still Black. Kanye said it best

"even when I'm in my Benz, I'm still a n***a in a coup"

Obama doesn't seem like he favors anyone though, which is good. He might turn out to be a so-so president at best, but shit I'll take so-so over McCain any day of the week.