Can this be right? Soldiers selling spoils of war on egay?

CoolTech

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shouldnt this type of behavior be reserved for other countries and shouldnt the U.S. give the proceeds or the items themselves back to the Iraqi people, not its own soldiers?
 

Pepsei

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So, it's like they're looting isn't it? even thou it is only 10 items. I've heard stories of people taking home AK's
 

rudeguy

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good for them. They risked their lives for us. If they can make a couple bucks, all the better.
 

Queasy

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Nothing new. That has occured in every single conflict since man first picked up a club to whack another man. Only, now ebay is involved.
 

CoolTech

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Nothing new. That has occured in every single conflict since man first picked up a club to whack another man. Only, now ebay is involved.

that's true, but the U.S. with its high and mighty morals touts itself as being better than that.
 

HappyPuppy

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It is a violation of the UCMJ to take "souvenirs". If these items are genuine the people who took them can and should be prosecuted.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: Queasy
Nothing new. That has occured in every single conflict since man first picked up a club to whack another man. Only, now ebay is involved.

that's true, but the U.S. with its high and mighty morals touts itself as being better than that.

who said that and when?
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: Queasy
Nothing new. That has occured in every single conflict since man first picked up a club to whack another man. Only, now ebay is involved.

that's true, but the U.S. with its high and mighty morals touts itself as being better than that.

You're right. We should have just let the Iraqi people stay under the yoke of a brutal dictator so that they could be raped, killed, assassinated, beaten, and held down so that we would never run the risk of a few trinkets making their way into U.S. soldier's hands.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
It is a violation of the UCMJ to take "souvenirs". If these items are genuine the people who took them can and should be prosecuted.

Now that it is public, they probably will be.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
It is a violation of the UCMJ to take "souvenirs". If these items are genuine the people who took them can and should be prosecuted.

You would have to prosecute every WW2 vet who took a Luger home as well, then, of which there was many.
 

CoolTech

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: Queasy
Nothing new. That has occured in every single conflict since man first picked up a club to whack another man. Only, now ebay is involved.

that's true, but the U.S. with its high and mighty morals touts itself as being better than that.

You're right. We should have just let the Iraqi people stay under the yoke of a brutal dictator so that they could be raped, killed, assassinated, beaten, and held down so that we would never run the risk of a few trinkets making their way into U.S. soldier's hands.

lol dude, so you deduced from what I said that I would condone Sadaam being back in power brutalizing his people? All I am saying is we can't make these new rules all the time just because we are the biggest and baddest country. If we mean to rule the world we have to live by certain rules we expect everyone else to follow, so why can't we follow the rules ourselves. And I don't consider $850 rugs trinkets.
 

SherEPunjab

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More proof that we went there with nothing but good intentions and that ALL of our soldiers are honest, law abiding, caring soldiers over there.
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Another good example of good behavior by our troops, right up there with driving the tank over that mans car.
 

yllus

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I wouldn't mind it for the most part. Considering the amount of WW2 Nazi memorabilia floating around today because victorious soldiers took home those trinkets from Germany and all.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: CoolTech
Originally posted by: Queasy
Nothing new. That has occured in every single conflict since man first picked up a club to whack another man. Only, now ebay is involved.

that's true, but the U.S. with its high and mighty morals touts itself as being better than that.

You're right. We should have just let the Iraqi people stay under the yoke of a brutal dictator so that they could be raped, killed, assassinated, beaten, and held down so that we would never run the risk of a few trinkets making their way into U.S. soldier's hands.

lol dude, so you deduced from what I said that I would condone Sadaam being back in power brutalizing his people? All I am saying is we can't make these new rules all the time just because we are the biggest and baddest country. If we mean to rule the world we have to live by certain rules we expect everyone else to follow, so why can't we follow the rules ourselves. And I don't consider $850 rugs trinkets.


Then what fun is it being the biggest and baddest country???

This type of thing happens in every war. Didnt your grandpa have some Nazi souvenir? Alot of my family members have little things they have picked up from their time in the service. Its not that big of a deal.
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: yllus
I wouldn't mind it for the most part. Considering the amount of WW2 Nazi memorabilia floating around today because victorious soldiers took home those trinkets from Germany and all.

That happened 60 years ago, so it sets a precedent for what happens today? I fail to see your logic. Should we be able to do anything today that we did in 1945? How about we throw all Muslim-Arab Americans in internment camps until this war is over?
 
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Huh - this is a clear violation of the law of war. If these guys were really told they were allowed to take 10 items each home, some commanders are likely to be in some major hot water for sanctioning war crimes.
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
Originally posted by: yllus
I wouldn't mind it for the most part. Considering the amount of WW2 Nazi memorabilia floating around today because victorious soldiers took home those trinkets from Germany and all.

That happened 60 years ago, so it sets a precedent for what happens today? I fail to see your logic. Should we be able to do anything today that we did in 1945? How about we throw all Muslim-Arab Americans in internment camps until this war is over?
It doesn't set a precedent, soldiers have been doing this for thousands of years. It's going to happen, quietly or otherwise. On top of that I don't see the harm in a corporal taking home a small drawing of Saddam, or a handgun taken from the dead hands of an enemy soldier, etc. What wouldn't be cool - taking things from civilians.