Can the U.S military be considered as sort of a school?

[kyrax12]

I mean the U.S military offers training and education in many fields such as Medic, Combat, IT, etc..,

Can it be considered as sort of a school?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

It's an education all right.

 

[Bateluer]

I mean the U.S military offers training and education in many fields such as Medic, Combat, IT, etc..,

Can it be considered as sort of a school?

You will go to various schools in the course of any military career, enlisted or officer.

 

[destrekor]

The military itself is not a school.

But the list of schools throughout the entire Armed Forces is ridiculously lengthy.

 

[xSauronx]

You will go to various schools in the course of any military career, enlisted or officer.

seriously....my bro in law is a CW2 or CW3 and ive lost count of how many extra classes and schools he's been to since he re-upped to become an apache pilot

 

[Farang]

Your question is very vague.

Can it be considered that way in any person's mind? Of course. But a person can also think a jellyfish is a cookie. So if it is a school or not is up to you.

Is it considered that for career/qualification purposes? Depends. In a lot (if not most) cases, military training does not equal civilian training. I.e. military aviation mechanics still have to go to the same amount of aviation mechanic school as anyone else to be licensed by the FAA.

 

[olds]

I got college credit for being in the military.

 

[kyrax12]

Your question is very vague.

Can it be considered that way in any person's mind? Of course. But a person can also think a jellyfish is a cookie. So if it is a school or not is up to you.

Is it considered that for career/qualification purposes? Depends. In a lot (if not most) cases, military training does not equal civilian training. I.e. military aviation mechanics still have to go to the same amount of aviation mechanic school as anyone else to be licensed by the FAA.

Say if you want to apply to be a nurse or a nurse's assistant. Can medic training and experience from the military on your resume be a good deciding factor?

 

[Bateluer]

Is it considered that for career/qualification purposes? Depends. In a lot (if not most) cases, military training does not equal civilian training. I.e. military aviation mechanics still have to go to the same amount of aviation mechanic school as anyone else to be licensed by the FAA.

While some military jobs don't translate well at all to the civilian world at all, most actually do. And you'll acquire more than a few abstract skills as well.

Say if you want to apply to be a nurse or a nurse's assistant. Can medic training and experience from the military on your resume be a good deciding factor?

Yes. That would look very good on a medical resume.

 

[Farang]

Say if you want to apply to be a nurse or a nurse's assistant. Can medic training and experience from the military on your resume be a good deciding factor?

I wouldn't count on it. That's entirely up to whoever is looking at your resume. I hire people for a living, and in my field relevant experience (proven skills) is #1, education is a distant #2, everything else I literally ignore completely.

Other fields are different, for example nursing there is educational/licensing requirements that must be met so that factor takes on more importance than it does in my field. Still it strikes me as the type of job where they don't really care who you are, they care about your qualifications and experience. The hiring person looks at your resume and quickly thinks 'Nursing degree? Yes or no?' and 'Years experience?' and 'Currently licensed?' So other "deciding factors" are irrelevant.

Conclusion: Don't plan based on what might tip the scale one way or the other. Plan based on what is being weighed.

 

[FoBoT]

each branch of the US military has a ton of classes or schools of various lengths, one day to several months
i got something like 20-30 college credits for my Navy schools when i got my bachelors degree

 

[Bateluer]

I wouldn't count on it. That's entirely up to whoever is looking at your resume. I hire people for a living, and in my field relevant experience (proven skills) is #1, education is a distant #2, everything else I literally ignore completely.

Other fields are different, for example nursing there is educational/licensing requirements that must be met so that factor takes on more importance than it does in my field. Still it strikes me as the type of job where they don't really care who you are, they care about your qualifications and experience. The hiring person looks at your resume and quickly thinks 'Nursing degree? Yes or no?' and 'Years experience?' and 'Currently licensed?' So other "deciding factors" are irrelevant.

Conclusion: Don't plan based on what might tip the scale one way or the other. Plan based on what is being weighed.

Military medic, combat medic, etc = Proven Skills. Every job I've had since I separated, my military background has weighed heavily in my favor.

 

[Farang]

Military medic, combat medic, etc = Proven Skills. Every job I've had since I separated, my military background has weighed heavily in my favor.

I should qualify what I'm saying, I hire contract (temporary) positions only. So the question for me is basically can you get the job done, or not. Other types of jobs might look into the totality of your experience, for me I look for very specific abilities.

That said, you still shouldn't base career decisions on whether something might look good on a resume in the future. You should base those decisions on whether it will give you the skills to fill a need employers will have. That attraction will be universal.

I'm not an expert in the nursing field but I'd bet a nurse out of a 2-year community college program + 2 years experience is going to get more offers than a enlisted medic after 4 years of service. In fact I know a medic with 7 years Army experience who is a parking valet.

If you can make a plan for college to graduate with minimal debt, its hard to argue the military is the best choice in most cases. You really have to have a strong desire to serve for it to make any sense.

 

[ballmode]

in the air force, they have the CCAF where they take your tech school and relate that to credit hours depending on what you went to school for. most universities recognize and give you credits

 

[Bateluer]

in the air force, they have the CCAF where they take your tech school and relate that to credit hours depending on what you went to school for. most universities recognize and give you credits

This is also true. Just keep in mind the differences between career fields. A CCAF degree for an Airman in finance is an Associates Degree in accounting. Very employable. A CCAF degree in Avionics Systems, like mine, is toilet paper because you need a masters minimum in the civilian side.

 

[OlafSicky]

I mean the U.S military offers training and education in many fields such as Medic, Combat, IT, etc..,

Can it be considered as sort of a school?

Yes for people with learning disabilities()

 

[Lifted]

The word you're looking for is welfare, not school.

 

[JTsyo]

From the commercials for the Army I've seen. The Army prepares you for a civilian job. Everything from medical personnel to electronics tech to mechanic.

 

[bobdole369]

You're goddamn right it is. Especially if its advanced technical training applicable in civilian life, such as the US Navy's nuke program (where the US power industry pulls most of its post-military workforce), or the Advanced Electronics Technical program or aviation electronics.

 

[dainthomas]

You're goddamn right it is. Especially if its advanced technical training applicable in civilian life, such as the US Navy's nuke program (where the US power industry pulls most of its post-military workforce), or the Advanced Electronics Technical program or aviation electronics.

Yep, I guarantee Navy Nuke School is harder than 99% of anything people on this board have gone to school for. And you still have to get your watch stander quals on top of that.

 

[shortylickens]

Actually in the workforce, military schools are considered much more highly than almost all civilian classroom education. My interviews at Hynix and Tektronix were pushed ahead of college grads and I got both jobs.

Also, I failed Nuke School and after 3 years of chipping paint I managed to work my way into Advanced Electronics where I got near perfect scores.
Supposedly Nuke School is MIT's 4 year nuclear engineering program compressed into 2 years. But I never met an actual MIT guy who could confirm that.

 

[keird]

The Army has this transcript system that can convert some of your military education and experience into college credit.

http://aarts.army.mil/

My basic training looks like this:

COURSE NUMBER: 750-BT
TITLE: BASIC COMBAT TRAINING
LOCATION: US ARMY TRAINING CENTER FT DIX, NJ
DATES TAKEN: 07/01/1988-08/25/1988
ACE GUIDE NUMBER
AR-2201-0399
DESCRIPTION:
UPON COMPLETION OF THE COURSE, THE RECRUIT WILL BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE GENERAL KNOWLEDGE OF MILITARY ORGANIZATION AND CULTURE, MASTERY OF INDIVIDUAL AND GROUP COMBAT SKILLS INCLUDING MARKSMANSHIP AND FIRST AID, ACHIEVEMENT OF MINIMAL PHYSICAL CONDITIONING STANDARDS, AND APPLICATION OF BASIC SAFETY AND LIVING SKILLS IN AN OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT.INSTRUCTION INCLUDES LECTURES, DEMONSTRATIONS, AND PERFORMANCE EXERCISES IN BASIC MILITARY CULTURE/SUBJECTS, INCLUDING MARKSMANSHIP, PHYSICAL CONDITIONING, FIRST AID, AND OUTDOOR ADAPTATION/LIVING SKILLS.

ACE CREDIT RECOMMENDATIONS:
IN THE LOWER-DIVISION BACCALAUREATE/ASSOCIATE DEGREE CATEGORY, 1
SEMESTER HOUR IN PERSONAL PHYSICAL CONDITIONING, 1 IN OUTDOOR
SKILLS PRACTICUM, 1 IN MARKSMANSHIP, AND 1 IN FIRST AID. (10/2000)

 

[ballmode]

For a CCAF they count my 2 months at Basic Training as the PT credit. Damn right!

For my degree, after my 7 month tech school, all I needed was a speech credit and social sciences and I would have gotten my CCAF.

Thing is, that tech school of mine was the hardest thing I've ever done. Harder than me getting my business bachelor's, because of how quickly everything was compressed. Seemed like every 2-3 days I would take a test, none of my stuff I could take home to study, and I had to get 80% or higher to pass. If I failed a test twice, I was kicked out of the job and had to reclass. Luckily I never failed!

 

[CVSiN]

I mean the U.S military offers training and education in many fields such as Medic, Combat, IT, etc..,

Can it be considered as sort of a school?

yes almost all of our schools enlisted or officer are considered college credits. and can be transferred.
My Electronics and Avionics training and A school is considered the same as a 2 year degree.
even boot camp is worth some.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

seriously....my bro in law is a CW2 or CW3 and ive lost count of how many extra classes and schools he's been to since he re-upped to become an apache pilot

Flying an apache would be soooo awesome.