Can the Dodgers RMA Finley back to Arizona?

Yossarian

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He's on second w/one out, Beltre hits a drive to center that's caught. Dumbass Finley is standing on third because he ran on the hit and gets doubled off.
 

kranky

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Not to make excuses for Finley, but why wasn't the 3rd base coach sending him back?
 

NutBucket

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Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

The bigger question is why on earth they traded Lo Duca:|

Moves like this and cr@ppy ownership mean I'll be boycotting the Dodgers for years to come.

In other news: GO HALOS:D
 

anxi80

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it was a good play. :D

btw, on padres channel 4, they just had samuel l. 'yes they deserved to die, and i hope they burn in hell!' jackson in the booth.
 

dionx

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

hit and run play? please. if it was a hit and run, finley would have been going full speed without looking at the ball. soon as it was a pop fly, he should have slowed down knowing that the hit and run is now off. hit and runs are done when the ball is hit on the ground. and normally hit and run plays are done when the runner is at first as to prevent a double play ball.
 

FrogDog

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Originally posted by: dionx
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

hit and run play? please. if it was a hit and run, finley would have been going full speed without looking at the ball. soon as it was a pop fly, he should have slowed down knowing that the hit and run is now off. hit and runs are done when the ball is hit on the ground. and normally hit and run plays are done when the runner is at first as to prevent a double play ball.
Woah, what the HELL are you talking about? "Hit and run plays are done when the ball is hit on the ground"? Case closed, you don't know what you're talking about!
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: dionx
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

hit and run play? please. if it was a hit and run, finley would have been going full speed without looking at the ball. soon as it was a pop fly, he should have slowed down knowing that the hit and run is now off. hit and runs are done when the ball is hit on the ground. and normally hit and run plays are done when the runner is at first as to prevent a double play ball.

From the sounds of the play it sounded like a hit and run. I choose to not watch the Dodgers.
 

dionx

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Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: dionx
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

hit and run play? please. if it was a hit and run, finley would have been going full speed without looking at the ball. soon as it was a pop fly, he should have slowed down knowing that the hit and run is now off. hit and runs are done when the ball is hit on the ground. and normally hit and run plays are done when the runner is at first as to prevent a double play ball.
Woah, what the HELL are you talking about? "Hit and run plays are done when the ball is hit on the ground"? Case closed, you don't know what you're talking about!

why would the runner go if the ball is in the air? to get doubled off on purpose? you gotta make sure the ball hits the ground first before you run. how simple is that.

besides, finely wasnt running. there was no hit and run on. he was watching the friggin pop fly catch.
 

FrogDog

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Originally posted by: dionx
Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: dionx
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

hit and run play? please. if it was a hit and run, finley would have been going full speed without looking at the ball. soon as it was a pop fly, he should have slowed down knowing that the hit and run is now off. hit and runs are done when the ball is hit on the ground. and normally hit and run plays are done when the runner is at first as to prevent a double play ball.
Woah, what the HELL are you talking about? "Hit and run plays are done when the ball is hit on the ground"? Case closed, you don't know what you're talking about!

why would the runner go if the ball is in the air? to get doubled off on purpose? you gotta make sure the ball hits the ground first before you run. how simple is that.

besides, finely wasnt running. there was no hit and run on
On a hit and run the runner is going as if trying to steal the base. It's the only way the play works because if the batter swings and misses the guy will be thrown out at second. Or, if you're suggesting he doesn't run until he sees where the ball is put into play, then that's not a hit and run, it's just a regular play. ;)
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: dionx
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

hit and run play? please. if it was a hit and run, finley would have been going full speed without looking at the ball. soon as it was a pop fly, he should have slowed down knowing that the hit and run is now off. hit and runs are done when the ball is hit on the ground. and normally hit and run plays are done when the runner is at first as to prevent a double play ball.
Woah, what the HELL are you talking about? "Hit and run plays are done when the ball is hit on the ground"? Case closed, you don't know what you're talking about!

We are talking about baseball here, you know... really doesn't sound like YOU know what you are talking about.
 

FrogDog

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: dionx
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

hit and run play? please. if it was a hit and run, finley would have been going full speed without looking at the ball. soon as it was a pop fly, he should have slowed down knowing that the hit and run is now off. hit and runs are done when the ball is hit on the ground. and normally hit and run plays are done when the runner is at first as to prevent a double play ball.
Woah, what the HELL are you talking about? "Hit and run plays are done when the ball is hit on the ground"? Case closed, you don't know what you're talking about!

We are talking about baseball here, you know... really doesn't sound like YOU know what you are talking about.
Hit and run plays are DESIGNED for the batter to hit it on the ground, but that doesn't always happen, and double plays are often the result when it doesn't.
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: dionx
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

hit and run play? please. if it was a hit and run, finley would have been going full speed without looking at the ball. soon as it was a pop fly, he should have slowed down knowing that the hit and run is now off. hit and runs are done when the ball is hit on the ground. and normally hit and run plays are done when the runner is at first as to prevent a double play ball.
Woah, what the HELL are you talking about? "Hit and run plays are done when the ball is hit on the ground"? Case closed, you don't know what you're talking about!

We are talking about baseball here, you know... really doesn't sound like YOU know what you are talking about.
Hit and run plays are DESIGNED for the batter to hit it on the ground, but that doesn't always happen, and double plays are often the result when it doesn't.

You'd think *somebody* would tell him that the ball was a pop fly... happens all the time, and the runner goes back.
 

FrogDog

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: dionx
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

hit and run play? please. if it was a hit and run, finley would have been going full speed without looking at the ball. soon as it was a pop fly, he should have slowed down knowing that the hit and run is now off. hit and runs are done when the ball is hit on the ground. and normally hit and run plays are done when the runner is at first as to prevent a double play ball.
Woah, what the HELL are you talking about? "Hit and run plays are done when the ball is hit on the ground"? Case closed, you don't know what you're talking about!

We are talking about baseball here, you know... really doesn't sound like YOU know what you are talking about.
Hit and run plays are DESIGNED for the batter to hit it on the ground, but that doesn't always happen, and double plays are often the result when it doesn't.

You'd think *somebody* would tell him that the ball was a pop fly... happens all the time, and the runner goes back.
Very true. I didn't see the play. If it was a high popup, he should have had time to go back. I'm just arguing statements like this one: "you gotta make sure the ball hits the ground first before you run. how simple is that."
 

dionx

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Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: FrogDog
Originally posted by: dionx
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

hit and run play? please. if it was a hit and run, finley would have been going full speed without looking at the ball. soon as it was a pop fly, he should have slowed down knowing that the hit and run is now off. hit and runs are done when the ball is hit on the ground. and normally hit and run plays are done when the runner is at first as to prevent a double play ball.
Woah, what the HELL are you talking about? "Hit and run plays are done when the ball is hit on the ground"? Case closed, you don't know what you're talking about!

We are talking about baseball here, you know... really doesn't sound like YOU know what you are talking about.
Hit and run plays are DESIGNED for the batter to hit it on the ground, but that doesn't always happen, and double plays are often the result when it doesn't.

You'd think *somebody* would tell him that the ball was a pop fly... happens all the time, and the runner goes back.
Very true. I didn't see the play. If it was a high popup, he should have had time to go back. I'm just arguing statements like this one: "you gotta make sure the ball hits the ground first before you run. how simple is that."

he knew it was a pop fly. finley saw the catch by the center field. he saw the pop fly off the bat and looked at the catch immediately. no signs of running hard therefore no hit and run.
 

Yossarian

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Uhm, its a hit and run play. Its hardly Finley's fault:roll:

The bigger question is why on earth they traded Lo Duca:|

Moves like this and cr@ppy ownership mean I'll be boycotting the Dodgers for years to come.

In other news: GO HALOS:D

yeah as has been pointed out it wasn't a hit and run. even if it were, no excuse for a player not getting back to his base on a ball hit almost to the warning track.

the trades were SO bad. I'm really disappointed.

"I thought the worst thing we could possibly do would be to be sitting here at 2 o'clock Saturday having done nothing as a first-place team," DePodesta said.

WTF!!! this guy is clueless. the team was fine, they could have used a starting pitcher but they've been playing great and Nomo will be back soon (hopefully). he fvcked up every part of the team. the outfield is new (Finley in center, Bradley has to move). the infield is changed at first--I thought Green was doing a great job defensively, and it's not like Choi is an offensive improvement. the battery is obviously messed up with the loss of LoDuca, and the bullpen is hurt bigtime by Mota's leaving.

Brent Mayne??? WTF. that guy sucks. career high in homers is 6, and except one season in Colorado he hasn't had more than 40 RBI. how the hell is he supposed to learn all the pitchers and call a good game this late in the season?

IF they had come up with Randy Johnson and Charles Johnson the trades would have made some sense at least. as it stands DePodesta got caught with his pants down when those deals fell through. you don't dismantle a first place team.