Can taking CREATINE for 3 months have prolonged negative health implications?

[CoolTech]

Can taking CREATINE for 3 months have prolonged negative health implications?

 

[Angrymarshmello]

If you don't cycle on/off of it, yes

 

[js1973]

You're looking for the answer to this question on a computer geek off topic forum. Uh huh.

 

[MaxDSP]

from what most of the trainers at my gym have told me, creatine may help yo build muscle, but after you stop taking it, it will be much harder to keep it. Your probably safer taking some more protein.

Try whey powder or DuffmanOhYea's favorite, EGGS

 

[Ronstang]

Your peepee will shrink and you will have a pimply face.......maybe in some other places also.

 

[MaxDSP]

<< Your peepee will shrink and you will have a pimply face....... >>



or is it the other way around?

 

[Antoneo]

Does it matter whether or not you are eating the eggs raw (ewww) or cooked?

 

[Antoneo]

<< from what most of the trainers at my gym have told me, creatine may help yo build muscle, but after you stop taking it, it will be much harder to keep it. >>


Hmm... Creatine causes water retension in the muscles. That why they look bigger and thus it seems harder to keep them that size after you stop. I don't see why when you stop taking Creatine you would lose actual muscle mass.

 

[MaxDSP]

<< Does it matter whether or not you are eating the eggs raw (ewww) or cooked? >>



Can't you get E. Coli or something by eating raw eggs? Consult the EGG h0X0r DuffManOhYea(h)




<< Hmm... Creatine causes water retension in the muscles. That why they look bigger and thus it seems harder to keep them that size after you stop. I don't see why when you stop taking Creatine you would lose actual muscle mass. >>



I didnt mean to say actual musle mass, just that your muscles would lose their definition or something

But then again, Im hardly an expert on this

 

[Antoneo]

Its salmonella I think... I don't eat my eggs raw but I remember reading somewhere about that.
Most eggs don't have salmonella on em otherwise it would be a really big health risk.

 

[SyahM]

there's no scientific prove yet about the danger of prolong creatine intake, but the added muscle mass is temporary. You stop taking creatine and the 40% of the muscle will gone.
You're better off by taking more protein and work hard.

 

[Tarobap]

Here is my advice as a third year medical student . . . take it for what you think it's worth:

Creatine is gonna indirectly increase your testosterone levels, which will lead to as someone else has already put it "shrink your peepee," and lead to several other hormonal imbalances as well, which will have negative effects including decreasing your HDL cholesterol and off set your lipid balance in general. Thirdly in can effect your blood pressure if you are older (this won't happen in the young athletic types).

I myself take whey protein on days I lift only (within 2 hours post lift). You have to give your body needed protein right after your destroy muscle tissue (ie right after you lift) else it will make it's own from other metabolites. If you take protein when your body doesn't need it, it will simply convert the protein to carbs and fat, which is what you don't want. That also brings up the point that you should only take protein if you are a consistantly heavy (meaning you REALLY work out and not just go through the motions) lifter.

That is the quick synopsis from my understanding . . .

 

[Atlantean]

Yes it will. Your hair will turn green and your teeth will turn blue. Then your penis will fall off.

 

[DuffmanOhYeah]

<< from what most of the trainers at my gym have told me, creatine may help yo build muscle, but after you stop taking it, it will be much harder to keep it. Your probably safer taking some more protein.

Try whey powder or DuffmanOhYea's favorite, EGGS >>


WWWHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally someone remembers!!!

 

[DuffmanOhYeah]

<< Does it matter whether or not you are eating the eggs raw (ewww) or cooked? >>


Actually, it is not only healthier to eat them cooked (no worries about Salmonella) but it helps protein absorbtion too. Oddly enough, eggs in their raw form provide a protein that is too complex (Ill call it that so I don;t have to talk about it for an hour) for your body to handle effectively. Cooking seems to break this protein apart helping your body's absorption.

 

[GagBag]

just take straight up roids man, they rock!

 

[MaxDSP]

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<< from what most of the trainers at my gym have told me, creatine may help yo build muscle, but after you stop taking it, it will be much harder to keep it. Your probably safer taking some more protein.

Try whey powder or DuffmanOhYea's favorite, EGGS >>


WWWHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally someone remembers!!! >>




you've beaten it into my brain

 

[DuffmanOhYeah]

<< Here is my advice as a third year medical student . . . take it for what you think it's worth:

Creatine is gonna indirectly increase your testosterone levels, which will lead to as someone else has already put it "shrink your peepee," and lead to several other hormonal imbalances as well, which will have negative effects including decreasing your HDL cholesterol and off set your lipid balance in general. Thirdly in can effect your blood pressure if you are older (this won't happen in the young athletic types).

I myself take whey protein on days I lift only (within 2 hours post lift). You have to give your body needed protein right after your destroy muscle tissue (ie right after you lift) else it will make it's own from other metabolites. If you take protein when your body doesn't need it, it will simply convert the protein to carbs and fat, which is what you don't want. That also brings up the point that you should only take protein if you are a consistantly heavy (meaning you REALLY work out and not just go through the motions) lifter.

That is the quick synopsis from my understanding . . . >>


Umm, I have yet to see a study showing a positive correlation between ingesteg creatine and test levels. The main effect of creatine is as an anti-diuretic, predominantly acting in skeletal muscle tissue. Simply, this means that you will retain fluids in your muscle tissue. So you WILL notice some muscle growth while on, but as soon as you go off, ........PSSSSSSS............ out it goes. Any benefots you will see from increased ATP production really doesn't mean sh!t in terms of mass building. You are just gonna have to take my word for it. I really don;t feel like typing for hours, not tonight anyway.

My advice, just stay away from it all together. Your money can be much more effectively and efficiently spent elsewhere, in particular on a high quality diet. An example of mine is below:

Breakfast:
4 cups cheerios or oatmeal
16oz cups milk (protein content of 18 grams)
1 large banana

Lunch:
1 large PBJ sandwich
4 tbsp PB (protein content of 16 grams)
1 1/2 cups cottage cheese (protein content of 42 grams)
32 oz milk (protein content of 36 grams)

Dinner #1
Egg sandwich
6 whole eggs (protein content of 36 grams)
2 pcs cheese (protein content of 8 grams)
Large glass OJ
1 large banana

Dinner #2
1 lb chicken (protein content of 104 grams)
2 pcs cheese (protein content of 8 grams)
1 large glass V8

Now this must be taken with a grain of salt. It is merely listed as a frame of reference. I in no way will be held responsible when (if you use my diet) your cholesterol goes through the roof and you get jacked as crap.

Long story short, no creatine, just eat better and train hard.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

<< Creatine is gonna indirectly increase your testosterone levels, which will lead to as someone else has already put it "shrink your peepee," and lead to several other hormonal imbalances as well, >>



Where have you heard this? I have never heard of creatine affecting testosterone levels or hormonal balances in any way. From what I have read it has no affect on either.

 

[Tarobap]

I heard the "creatine causing hormonal imbalances" from two docs I worked with. I briefly went through some notes but couldn't find the exact mechanism. I'm studying for other exams right now, but if I find out I will post. Like I said, I'm a third year med STUDENT, but I do know a lot about the cycling of metabolites within your body.

The most important point I was making though was that don't take protein unless you plan on using it, ie plan on working out. Also that taking protein (like a shake) right after you work out will enhance the percentage absorbed by your muscles since they will need it.

 

[CoolTech]

bump

 

[MeanMeosh]

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<< Your peepee will shrink and you will have a pimply face....... >>



or is it the other way around? >>



so you mean that his peepee will be pimply and his face will shrink?

 

[MiniThug]

Well I just started taking creatine serum., the liquid you take minutes prior to workout. This seems to be the best if you want to take creatine, thre is no loading, its not supposed to dehydrate you like the powder does, etc. Id like to know more about the long term effects as well though.

 

[MiniThug]

When people say cycle on/ cycle off, what exactly does that mean?

 

[ed1564]

I cycle on the powder for 2 months then off for one month. Just so that your body does not become use to the creatine, if it does it will stop working as well.