Can someone tell me why Fire Fox is more secure than IE?

[Malak]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: BFG10K

No spyware/adware software can automatically install in Firefox just by visiting a web site.

Neither can it on IE SP2.

It potentially can in both programs if they have holes.

And they do, both of them.

 

[Nothinman]

I don't need to. Opera has been out 10 years, FF has been out 1 year. Already FF has worse vulnerabilities than Opera has had, and it has more patches. Security groups say it's more secure, Opera says they are more secure, I have had ZERO problems with it... what more does anyone need? You just want to argue the point, get off your OMGITSNOTOPENSOURCEWTFBBQ tangent and get with it.

What security groups?

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Well does it really matter?I use IE with the google toolbar...also I have ZA Firewall,Kaspersky Anti-Virus,and Microsoft AntiSpyware running in the background.

Don't read the thread if it doesn't really matter. I don't care if you have those tools. I'm asking a legit question.

 

[Azndude2190]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Well does it really matter?I use IE with the google toolbar...also I have ZA Firewall,Kaspersky Anti-Virus,and Microsoft AntiSpyware running in the background.

Don't read the thread if it doesn't really matter. I don't care if you have those tools. I'm asking a legit question.

I'am asking if it matters.I never said it didn't.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

I don't need to. Opera has been out 10 years, FF has been out 1 year. Already FF has worse vulnerabilities than Opera has had, and it has more patches. Security groups say it's more secure, Opera says they are more secure, I have had ZERO problems with it... what more does anyone need? You just want to argue the point, get off your OMGITSNOTOPENSOURCEWTFBBQ tangent and get with it.

What security groups?

Secunia for one

 

[Nothinman]

Secunia for one

Maybe I didn't look hard enough, but I can't find any articles where they say it's more secure than IE or FF. Yes, they have pages that list how many advisories have been published and how many are still unpatched but that's a far cry from an endorsement for one product or another.

 

[corkyg]

Originally posted by: Azndude2190
Well does it really matter?I use IE with the google toolbar...also I have ZA Firewall,Kaspersky Anti-Virus,and Microsoft AntiSpyware running in the background.

I am in the same boat - and also have Firefox for some onlineshopping activities. The Google toolbar creates a problem for some shopping sites. That is because it requires that 3rd party extension use be enabled, and some secure sites will simply dump you and IE will shut down even with all those layers of defense.

So, I use Firefox for shopping and similar activities.

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: jdport

* No spyware/adware software can automatically install in Firefox just by visiting a web site.

This isn't entirely true :\
I thought the same thing until just the other day I was googling something, and I went to click on a link and accidentally clicked the wrong link. It took me to a page with a bunch of porn adds, etc and a window popped up asking if I wanted to run suchand such a thing and then automatically answered yes and began downloading all kinds of crap. My antivirus program popped up and blocked some stuff before I could even get the alt-F4 keys pressed to kill the browser. Thank god for AV programs. Sadly I use Firefox just to avoid this kind of thing, but I guess Firefox isn't immune to it either.

I hate to say it but youre not the brightest crayon... thats hardly an automatic installation either.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
If you want to be more accurate:
Dillo 0.x > lynx 2.x > Safari 2.x >= Konqueror embedded > Konqueror 3.x >Firefox 1.x > Mozilla 1.7.x > IE 6

Where's Opera?

doh! It was an oversight. Thanks.

Dillo 0.x > lynx 2.x > Safari 2.x >= Konqueror embedded > Konqueror 3.x >Firefox 1.x > Mozilla 1.7.x > Opera 7.x > IE 6

N0c, Opera is way more secure than Firefox, not sure why you are putting it like that. Opera has very few security patches over the course of a year, FF has one right now that is unpatched. In fact, if you go through it's list of vulnerabilities, it has a couple that need to be fixed, and some that have been very severe. Opera has never had any vulnerabilities that bad. The problem with IE is that so many vulnerabilities are simply not patched, mostly due to how slow Microsoft is at patching their browser, or any product.

The unpatched Firefox "vulnerabilities" on secunia were yawners. Opera has more vulnerabilities overall than firefox. Dillo had 1.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: xtknight

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

doh! It was an oversight. Thanks.

Dillo 0.x > lynx 2.x > Safari 2.x >= Konqueror embedded > Konqueror 3.x >Firefox 1.x > Mozilla 1.7.x > Opera 7.x > IE 6

You left out Opera 8

I didn't see any information about it on secunia.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=secunia+opera+8.x&btnG=Google+Search



LOL, oops, JustAnAverageGuy beat me to it.

I did use secunia's search. A couple of older Opera versions popped up, nothing on 8.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Opera is way more secure than Firefox,

Oh, so you've audited Opera's source code recently?

I don't need to. Opera has been out 10 years, FF has been out 1 year. Already FF has worse vulnerabilities than Opera has had, and it has more patches. Security groups say it's more secure, Opera says they are more secure, I have had ZERO problems with it... what more does anyone need? You just want to argue the point, get off your OMGITSNOTOPENSOURCEWTFBBQ tangent and get with it.

So that's a no, right?

 

[DPmaster]

it's because less people use Firefox right now.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
^ BW86's material is partly true, but the real reason is the same one that keeps macs safe:

Criminals and vandals go after the biggest market. IE still has 80-90% of all browser users, so devising an exploit for it will gain to 10 to 30 times as many victims as devising an exploit for ff or safari.

If you want to smash some Windows or build up a zombie army, IE is the one to crack.

Hes got it in one. Hackers dont care about firefox.

 

[Nothinman]

Hes got it in one. Hackers dont care about firefox.

You've interviewed them all?

 

[Xyo II]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk
I hate to say it but youre not the brightest crayon... thats hardly an automatic installation either.

Let me rephrase his problem:
1. I was looking for pr0n
2. Found some pr0n
3. Tried downloading some pr0n
4. Omg! Virus with pr0n!
5. Omg AnandTech peoples, this site hijacked my computer and downloaded viruses. I didn't click anything, I swear.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Hes got it in one. Hackers dont care about firefox.

You've interviewed them all?

Sure have.

 

[Nothinman]

Sure have.

Wow, you must have one helluva travel agent.

 

[Maximilian]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Sure have.

Wow, you must have one helluva travel agent.

Yea they give some pretty good deals.