Can someone please suggest a webmail that is able to check a POP every 5 minutes?

[John Connor]

Thunderbird? I use Trillian to let me know there is an E-mail.

 

[BirdDad]

I thought I had this figured out, my solution was to keep their incoming server a pop3 while using gmail to send smtp as if it were sent from their normal email account. Man was I wrong. About every third message sent it would ask us to log into gmail(I guess as a way of spam control). This will not do.
Is there an idea that I am missing? And there will be times when they send email to a list of people(class reunion, family reunion sort of thing).

 

[BirdDad]

Does anyone know what to do?
I am trying to do this:
1 use regular pop3 without an external service(works fine)
2 use an external service to send mail through(because it can't be done on the VPN the ISP won't allow it).
I just don't know which service to use and I thought that gmail would work but it doesn't, every few messages it wants a login which would be fine if it was just me using it but you got to understand that the people that I am talking about are elderly folks who are very resistive towards anything being changed therefore they refuse to learn to use web based email.
I need it to work preferably in Thunderbird since that is what they use now and it was hell getting them switched over from OE.
Thanks

 

[mxnerd]

Pop Peeper? But it's not webmail.

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/poppeeper.html

 

[Zahid Iqbal]

In my opinion only Gmail is best for this

 

[Mushkins]

Does anyone know what to do?
I am trying to do this:
1 use regular pop3 without an external service(works fine)
2 use an external service to send mail through(because it can't be done on the VPN the ISP won't allow it).
I just don't know which service to use and I thought that gmail would work but it doesn't, every few messages it wants a login which would be fine if it was just me using it but you got to understand that the people that I am talking about are elderly folks who are very resistive towards anything being changed therefore they refuse to learn to use web based email.
I need it to work preferably in Thunderbird since that is what they use now and it was hell getting them switched over from OE.
Thanks

I'm sorry, but I think you're out of luck here. They can be as resistant to change as they want, but if the technology doesn't function like that then they're going to have to take the five minutes to learn.

They could have learned a new mail client a hundred times over in the time that's been used to try to bend Gmail to their will at this point.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Setting the interval and receiving notification of new mail is one of the reasons I prefer using Office Outlook. Thunderbird lets you specify certain settings, however I cannot remember if interval is included among them.

 

[mxnerd]

If you insist on using gmail, someone figured out a way to force gmail to increase frequency to check other pop3 accounts

http://lifehacker.com/5580553/incre...checks-your-other-email-accounts-for-new-mail

 

[BirdDad]

I don't insist on using gmail. I'll use whatever makes this work.
I don't have trouble receiving email it is SENDing that is the problem. So forget about the receiving part of it.
They will be using Thunderbird, whatever service lets them send mail as if they were sending it on their old non VPN account is what I am after while making it seem as if they are using their old account.
We will NOT be using gmail or whatever service to receive POP3 mail, only to send.
Thanks for the replies.

 

[mxnerd]

Your title said " please suggest a webmail that is able to check a POP every 5 minutes webmail that is able to check a POP every 5 minutes"

I have to say you never express your problem clearly.

If it's smtp sending problem, you probably have to use some kind of local smtp server. and avoid using port 25.

http://www.snapfiles.com/downloadfind.php?st=smpt+server&action=s&ref=2&search=Find+it&lc=1

 

[BirdDad]

I can't use a local server because they will be on a VPN, the only thing I can do with a local server is receive mail(ISP has no problem with that).
We have tried different port-that's not the problem, the problem is that the ISP does not allow you to send while on a VPN.

 

[mxnerd]

You have to search for email forwarding service then.

https://www.google.com/search?q=smtp+25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=email+forwarding+service

 

[Dahak]

I can't use a local server because they will be on a VPN, the only thing I can do with a local server is receive mail(ISP has no problem with that).
We have tried different port-that's not the problem, the problem is that the ISP does not allow you to send while on a VPN.

I had tried to re-read this thread as well hoping to give some more help, but I think we have started to become a bit lost (at least I am)

So right now you are saying receiving is fine, but sending is not?

And just a bit more details to hopefully help clear it up for me

1 - The sending/receiver email address, is it the ISP provided or a different provider?
2 - VPN - why are the using a vpn? Why does the VPN provider not allow sending mail over it?
which could be either
a) a configuration issue why the email account (which should be fixed with user authentication)
b) they dont allow SMTP traffic, which would be odd, at least I have not heard of that
3 - Why does the ISP not allow sending mail while on the VPN?

For sending, pretty much now-a-days most setups allow or require user authentication to be able to send if sending on a different network (ISP email for example over vpn), to help prevent spam

 

[mxnerd]

Don' know previous mentioned whitelist is email address or smtp server?

If you are using PIA, their tech support said they will whitelist SMTP server

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/2937/can-not-send-email-with-vpn-connected

BabyInStasis
June 17 Posts: 120
Hello,

Any VPN provider like us that does not keep logs of user activity on the
VPN must restrict SMTP (outgoing) mail traffic due to rampant SPAM
associated with anonymous VPN services. The alternative is to have many
sites and services block our VPN, which could lead to us going out of
business, OR to keep logs of user activity and hold users responsible
for the SPAM. Neither of these are preferable to us or our customers, so
we choose to restrict SMTP traffic until the proper process has been
completed.

With that said, we white list any and all SMTP servers
that require authentication, or are configured to ensure that relaying
on the server is not possible. We are able to test mail servers for you
to ensure they meet these requirements. If you provide us the server
name of your SMTP server(s) (smtp.gmail.com for example) we will be
happy to test your server and if it passes, we will white list your SMTP
servers, which will allow you to send email again.

In order to
have your SMTP server white listed, please submit a ticket via the
following link:
https://support.privateinternetaccess.com/index.php?/Tickets/Submit

Please
make sure to include your SMTP server's hostname and if you have it, IP
address, so we can whitelist this for you as soon as we can.

 

[BirdDad]

Don' know previous mentioned whitelist is email address or smtp server?

If you are using PIA, their tech support said they will whitelist SMTP server

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/2937/can-not-send-email-with-vpn-connected

We are using PIA and we have tried getting the server whitelisted, the trouble is that it only lasts a few days then we have to repeat the process again and again.

 

[BirdDad]

I had tried to re-read this thread as well hoping to give some more help, but I think we have started to become a bit lost (at least I am)

So right now you are saying receiving is fine, but sending is not?

And just a bit more details to hopefully help clear it up for me

1 - The sending/receiver email address, is it the ISP provided or a different provider?
2 - VPN - why are the using a vpn? Why does the VPN provider not allow sending mail over it?
which could be either
a) a configuration issue why the email account (which should be fixed with user authentication)
b) they dont allow SMTP traffic, which would be odd, at least I have not heard of that
3 - Why does the ISP not allow sending mail while on the VPN?

For sending, pretty much now-a-days most setups allow or require user authentication to be able to send if sending on a different network (ISP email for example over vpn), to help prevent spam

Forget everything that you've read up to post #28.
The sending recieving address is from the ISP.
It is not a configuration issue, we have had it working before when the server was whitelisted and it works fine when not on the VPN.
It is a spam issue.

 

[mxnerd]

So who provides this SMTP server? A name will let people easier to help you.

I too have problem using Google web mail (not even SMTP) if I use any kind of VPN. It constantly ask you to re-identify or re-authorize.

 

[mxnerd]

I'm not particular good at routing. So someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Another way is probably using "route add" command

Let's say your smtp server IP is on 95.211.0.0 range, your local area network LAN IP gateway is 192.168.10.1

then run

route -p add 95.211.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 192.168.10.1 at command prompt

it should redirect all SMTP traffic to 95.211.0.0 through LAN network, not through VPN.

-p parameter as Windows to remember permanently.

 

[BirdDad]

Your title said " please suggest a webmail that is able to check a POP every 5 minutes webmail that is able to check a POP every 5 minutes"

I have to say you never express your problem clearly.

If it's smtp sending problem, you probably have to use some kind of local smtp server. and avoid using port 25.

http://www.snapfiles.com/downloadfind.php?st=smpt+server&action=s&ref=2&search=Find+it&lc=1

I changed the post to avoid posting twice on the same problem(I have gotten into trouble for that before).

 

[mxnerd]

I think you didn't know that you can change the thread title if you click "Go Advanced" button on your first post.

By the way, this topic is more related to networking, you might want to ask moderator to move it to Networking subforum.

 

[Dahak]

Forget everything that you've read up to post #28.
The sending recieving address is from the ISP.
It is not a configuration issue, we have had it working before when the server was whitelisted and it works fine when not on the VPN.
It is a spam issue.

Ahh ok, well, I have not personally encountered this the particular issue with it not sending on a vpn, but had similar situations where it would not send the isp email on a different network.

This was resolved by using user authentication for the isp sending email server. At least in my area, the isp offer this configuration and it uses a different port other than 25(usually 587) so in theory it should not be affected by the vpn if they are only blocking port 25

 

[BirdDad]

I have tried three different ports, the ISP is Windstream and they do not support encryption so the password is transmitted insecurely.

 

[mxnerd]

Have you tried route add command?

since your smtp server should be smtp.windstream.net, which has IP 162.39.147.58
the route add command should be like

"route -p add 162.39.147.58 mask 255.255.255.255 192.168.10.1"
(assume 192.168.10.1 is your router IP)

similar solution
bypass vpn for gmail
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162059

 

[BirdDad]

How would I add the route command to Thunderbird?
I am not using gmail-that was for a workaround that did not work, I have given up on it.
They are blocking every port I tried, I tried three of the standard ports.

 

[mxnerd]

route command is run from Windows, not thunderbird.

the concept has nothing to do with google, it can be any ISP's email server.

Microsoft doc

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Bb490991.aspx

one of route command tutorial on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOqBollh_x47