Can someone help me understand thinking that drunk driving is ok?

[SMOGZINN]

I agree, but alcohol has the ability to impair you beyond what wearing eyeliner does. Those things merely distract you for a moment. You have the ability to put the phone down. You don't, however, have the ability to put the intoxication aside for the time it takes to drive home and that is a huge issue.

And you can simply not drive if you have been drinking. By the time you know you need to put the cell phone down and pay attention to the road you have already hit the car in front of you. The problem is not the method of impairment, it is that we don't consider the consequences.

 

[holden j caufield]

if the penalty for dui is so x dollars shouldn't the penalty of messing with your phone be near that price?

 

[DCal430]

Funny story. About three weeks ago went out with some people. We had 3 bottles of wine between the three of us. This was over about 2 hours. We all drove home ourselves. Next morning I talked to one of the people and they told me they didn't even remember how they got home. Lol they drove home and couldn't remember.

 

[soulcougher73]

You dont think straight when drunk. That is really all there is to it unfortunatly.

 

[rudeguy]

Funny story. About three weeks ago went out with some people. We had 3 bottles of wine between the three of us. This was over about 2 hours. We all drove home ourselves. Next morning I talked to one of the people and they told me they didn't even remember how they got home. Lol they drove home and couldn't remember.

How is that funny?

 

[DrPizza]

How is that funny?

He's a troll.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Funny story. About three weeks ago went out with some people. We had 3 bottles of wine between the three of us. This was over about 2 hours. We all drove home ourselves. Next morning I talked to one of the people and they told me they didn't even remember how they got home. Lol they drove home and couldn't remember.

So, assuming you all drank the same amount, and that you are a male weighing in somewhere under 300lbs, your BAC was around .03 which is at the edge of passing out drunk, and you drove home.

So, I guess I should ask why? Why did you think is was okay to drive when you were so drunk that walking must have been difficult?

 

[DrPizza]

So, assuming you all drank the same amount, and that you are a male weighing in somewhere under 300lbs, your BAC was around .03 which is at the edge of passing out drunk, and you drove home.

I think your math is off a bit. The majority of wine bottles are 750ml, and alcohol is usually around 12%, give or take a few percent. That's right around 3oz of alcohol; the equivalent of 6 drinks. E.g., 1.25oz of 80 proof liquor. Over 2 hours, you would be impaired, but certainly should remember what you did.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Feel free to check my math. I admit I have done very little of this since college.

I started at male 132kg
1 bottle = 750ml = 5 drinks of 150ml each.
148ml of wine is on average 10 grams of ethanol, so I'm going with that.
Remove .015 per hour for metabolism.

So the formula is:

BAC=(0.806*5*1.2)/(.58*132)-(.015*2)=.033

 

[Atomic Playboy]

So, assuming you all drank the same amount, and that you are a male weighing in somewhere under 300lbs, your BAC was around .03 which is at the edge of passing out drunk, and you drove home.

You realize the legal limit is 0.08, right? 0.03 is not at the edge of passing out drunk, it's barely a buzz.

According to this calculator, if he had 5 glasses of wine (1 bottle) over 2 hours and weighs ~180, his BAC will be around .07, which is impaired, but not drunk. Shouldn't be driving, but hardly passing out.

 

[NetWareHead]

Whats funny is I had a total brain fart when I was in Brazil.

I got in the car with my in-laws who live in Brazil... and they start busting open beers all-around. It just totally befuddled me they could drink in a vehicle after living in the US where it's such a no-no.

Shit, it only took me a day when I went to Mexico and agin in Domenican Republic. We got into a taxi cab and had open containers of beer and rum with us.

 

[DCal430]

I keep a breathlizer in my car to make sure I am not over the limit. It was 0.05 that night. As for my friend I don't know what their BAC was, but they are like 150lbs.

 

[SMOGZINN]

You realize the legal limit is 0.08, right? 0.03 is not at the edge of passing out drunk, it's barely a buzz.

According to this calculator, if he had 5 glasses of wine (1 bottle) over 2 hours and weighs ~180, his BAC will be around .07, which is impaired, but not drunk. Shouldn't be driving, but hardly passing out.

You are totally right. When I cross-referenced my chart I looked up .3 not .03. My bad.

 

[NetWareHead]

Funny story. About three weeks ago went out with some people. We had 3 bottles of wine between the three of us. This was over about 2 hours. We all drove home ourselves. Next morning I talked to one of the people and they told me they didn't even remember how they got home. Lol they drove home and couldn't remember.

Sounds like exaggeration. 1 bottle of wine per person with dinner over the course of 2 hours IMO should not impair most people to drive. You'll feel nice, but not drunk driving territory.

 

[Jeff7]

Remember the recent thread about distracted driving? 61% of people surveyed admitted to texting while driving.


Many people are just really goddamn stupid.



Driving a car is also a rite of passage into adulthood in our society, and one's vehicle and driving behavior and skill are often closely tied to one's ego or even sense of self-worth. Any perceived attack on that is taken very personally. "Attack" in this case can mean "Your ancient primate brain isn't capable of simultaneously piloting a 2500lb 100,000-watt machine and texting."

or

"Safe driving requires you to be quite alert and capable of quick reactions. You're really not very good at doing it if your brain is all fogged up."

 

[DCal430]

Sounds like exaggeration. 1 bottle of wine per person with dinner over the course of 2 hours IMO should not impair most people to drive. You'll feel nice, but not drunk driving territory.

This wasn't dinner this was wine bar after dinner. This was a beer and wine bar after dinner.

According to BAC calcular 1 bottle over two hours for a 150 lb person is 0.11. But this person holds their alcohol well. My BAC was 0.05, which isn't drunk to me.

 

[MongGrel]

If only Alky were here to explain...

That did leap to mind.

I've had a DUI, but was 30 years ago.

Fortunately if we go out the wife rarely drinks, or very little, she's the driver then.

I do not get near a steering wheel if I've had a few, ever.

 

[DCal430]

Feel free to check my math. I admit I have done very little of this since college.

I started at male 132kg
1 bottle = 750ml = 5 drinks of 150ml each.
148ml of wine is on average 10 grams of ethanol, so I'm going with that.
Remove .015 per hour for metabolism.

So the formula is:

BAC=(0.806*5*1.2)/(.58*132)-(.015*2)=.033

Was curious so i looked up your calculation. You are off 14% ABV red wine is closer to 17 grams per 150 ml. Higher than 0.03BAC but not drunk.

Only muscat wine or something similar would be as low as you put.

 

[NetWareHead]

This wasn't dinner this was wine bar after dinner. This was a beer and wine bar after dinner.

According to BAC calcular 1 bottle over two hours for a 150 lb person is 0.11. But this person holds their alcohol well. My BAC was 0.05, which isn't drunk to me.

I weight 210 and assumed the wine consumption ocurred with dinner. Its just a shoot from the hip measurement that I've honed over the years to gauge my own alcohol consumption and fitness to drive.

Now it is occurring to me that this is part of the question this thread is trying to have answered. We all think we can guage ourselves and can regulate our own consumption and still be safe behind the wheel.

Some individuals can do it better than others with a greater degree of accuracy. Thos who can't = DUI or death.

 

[rudeguy]

I weight 210 and assumed the wine consumption ocurred with dinner. Its just a shoot from the hip measurement that I've honed over the years to gauge my own alcohol consumption and fitness to drive.

Now it is occurring to me that this is part of the question this thread is trying to have answered. We all think we can guage ourselves and can regulate our own consumption and still be safe behind the wheel.

Some individuals can do it better than others with a greater degree of accuracy. Thos who can't = DUI or death.

How can you possibly know if you are gauging it accurately?

 

[DCal430]

I weight 210 and assumed the wine consumption ocurred with dinner. Its just a shoot from the hip measurement that I've honed over the years to gauge my own alcohol consumption and fitness to drive.

Now it is occurring to me that this is part of the question this thread is trying to have answered. We all think we can guage ourselves and can regulate our own consumption and still be safe behind the wheel.

Some individuals can do it better than others with a greater degree of accuracy. Thos who can't = DUI or death.

Yes some people seem to get more affected than others. I was fine, but I always like to check my breathlizer in the car before I drive. Don't want to risk a DUI.

 

[WelshBloke]

It's an interesting question. This topic came up when we were drinking in London with some friends. The mindset there is just completely different. If they have more than a drop, they are hyper-sensitive to it and will not even consider driving. I'm sure that doesn't apply to everyone, but the overall mindset sure seems very different there. I don't know what they did to get it there.

Reading this thread I've realised that that is true.

Theres no way you'd get away with publicly drinking a bottle of wine then driving home here.

 

[rcpratt]

He's a troll.

And we're going to let him troll for how much longer here?

 

[NetWareHead]

How can you possibly know if you are gauging it accurately?

Ive always wanted to get a breathalyzer and see if I am right/wrong. But to answer your question, without a proper tool, you can't/don't know. I do know my own limits and where I feel comfortable to drive and where I don't. IMO, in the aforementioned wine scenario, I feel that I would be fine to drive.

 

[ioni]

alcohol inhibits the judgement portions of the brain.

What a load of crap. People who make poor judgements when drunk make poor judgements when sober.