Can someone explain to me the benefits of owning a condo (as opposed to renting one)?

Syringer

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So I understand the benefits of buying a house to raise a family in; a place that you can live in when you retire and no longer have to make mortgage payments on; a place where you have a nice sized yard and can do whatever you want to the house since you own it.

However with a condo all those benefits are essentially gone--in a 1/2br place you're probably not going to be raising 2-3 kids in it, you probably don't have a huge yard to build a pool in if you want to, and if you're say in your mid-late 20s or early 30s and single, it likely isn't the last place you'll ever live.

Essentially then someone in my position, a 26 year old single guy, if I wanted to buy a condo I'd be borrowing a huge sum of money at a 4.5-5% rate to live in a place that'll appreciate at 2-3%, which would be considered lucky in downtown San Diego where condos are completely oversaturated.

Currently I'm renting out a 2br condo in San Diego with a roommate in downtown San Diego, and together we pay $1800. The list price for other places in this building is around $450k, so if I actually wanted to buy this place, and make a down payment of something like $100k (just over 20%), a 30-year mortgage for $350k @ 4.5% means monthly payments of just around $1800, PLUS HOAs which in this area is $400+, along with insurance, and maintenance fees..meaning I would lose extra money every month AFTER my $100k down payment.

If I had taken that $100k and put it into some sort of stock fund, which even these days aren't doing well, and get say a 4.5% return on it, along with the $400 extra I'd be paying on my mortgage in HOAs (I'll reduce insurance/other fees in rent increases), in 8 years that's $90,000+ I'd be getting back.

And the place at $450k, assuming 2.5% appreciation (which I think is generous), after 8 years would be worth: $548,281, so the place would be barely have appreciated more than my other investment would've, and I'd still barely own a fraction of the place up until that point.

So as a single guy in an area where housing has seen better days (which I assume holds true for many metro places), and will likely, and hopefully never see 5-10%+ annual appreciation rates, and as someone who'll eventually move to a house, what benefits are there at all of owning a condo?
 
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Patranus

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The exact same argument can be made about buying a house except you have much higher costs.
 

Scouzer

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Some people are annoyed by having an oversized place versus what they actually need. If you're out of town a lot for example, it's inefficient to have a full house sitting.

If you don't mind renting, depending on the area, it can be quite a bit cheaper. Renting sucks though, it's nice to own and be able to whatever you want.

Oh, and condos don't have spiders.
 

Syringer

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On top of it, with interest rates lower than we'll likely ever see in our lifetimes, these conditions seem like it'd be ideal to buy, since your mortgage rates are theoretically lower, and an outside investment would yield you less than what you could've gotten in the stock markets 10-15 years ago--and the math still makes no sense at all.
 

bignateyk

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I can't think of any benefits of owning a condo under the circumstances you describe.

I might not make alot of money on my house, but I bought for the freedom to do what I want to the house/yard.
 

Syringer

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The exact same argument can be made about buying a house except you have much higher costs.

Read my first sentence..I acknowledge a house in suburbia has many advantages, even though some of the same logic applies.
 

Scouzer

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On top of it, with interest rates lower than we'll likely ever see in our lifetimes, these conditions seem like it'd be ideal to buy, since your mortgage rates are theoretically lower, and an outside investment would yield you less than what you could've gotten in the stock markets 10-15 years ago--and the math still makes no sense at all.

Every area is drastically different. In your area rents are clearly underpriced versus an overheated market. In my area rents are significantly higher than purchasing.

My condo costs $671 to mortgage or if I had rented it'd be 1400-1600/mo.
 

MJinZ

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Condos are cheaper.

What's the advantage of buying a small car over a buying a bigger car?

Small truck over a bigger truck?

Yup. $
 

Capt Caveman

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I can't think of any benefits of owning a condo under the circumstances you describe.

I might not make alot of money on my house, but I bought for the freedom to do what I want to the house/yard.

He's in the city and not in the burbs. The few houses you might find in the city make the condo an affordable alternative. Also, some folks don't want to deal with the maintenance of owning a house.
 

Syringer

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Condos are cheaper.

What's the advantage of buying a small car over a buying a bigger car?

Small truck over a bigger truck?

Yup. $

It's not a question of owning a condo vs a mansion, it's a matter of renting vs owning one.
 

gimmewhitecastles

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For condos, the city is your backyard. There are a lot more things to do in the city than in the 'burbs. That is pretty much the main draw for condos. The really good condos have a gym, pool, and basketball/tennis courts on the property. Condo's make for better bachelor pads as well.
 

seepy83

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If I own something, I can sell it later and (potentially) make a profit.

If I rent something, the only thing I own at the end of the rental is a receipt.
 

Syringer

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Every area is drastically different. In your area rents are clearly underpriced versus an overheated market. In my area rents are significantly higher than purchasing.

My condo costs $671 to mortgage or if I had rented it'd be 1400-1600/mo.

Really, I know this is possible, but certainly not to that extent. Where in Canada do you live?
 

MJinZ

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It's not a question of owning a condo vs a mansion, it's a matter of renting vs owning one.

Uh, that is the same reason of Renting vs Buying. And there are million reasons for one vs the other. It depends completely on the costs and your situation.
 

Patranus

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Read my first sentence..I acknowledge a house in suburbia has many advantages, even though some of the same logic applies.

The advantages you claim are untangle while the disadvantages for owning a condo are financial. The disadvantages for owning a condo also apply to a house but are multiplied.

Owning property is a liability.
 

ShawnD1

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Buy a condo instead of rent a condo because the majority of your mortgage goes into your own pocket, and you get it back when you sell the condo.

Buy a condo instead of a house because the condo fees include maintenance.

Buy a house instead of a condo because you need somewhere to park 2 cars and store shit.
 

Phokus

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I've heard so many HOA horror stories, i don't know of any advantage of owning a condo. Around here, condos even aren't really much cheaper than buying a house.
 

Gibson486

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trying buying a house in Boston or NY. That's right, you can't unless you are some rich dude.....but then again, everyone on ATOT is a rich dude,
 

Phokus

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I guess my actual question is, what motivates a (relatively) young person to buy a condo in a place/market like this? Why are they doing it?

Because americans keep getting beat over the head about 'THE AMERICAN DREAM', 'OWNERSHIP SOCIETY', blah blah blah. It's all bullshit

*note i just purchased a house, but it was a short sale that was heavily discounted off FMV. That's the only way i would ever buy a house or condo now. Real estate, on average, is a poor investment.