Can someone explain this to me.

Ferocious

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In an added twist, the Army announced that soldiers in every unit designated for deployment to Iraq next year ? whether active duty or reserve ? will be prohibited from leaving the service during a period beginning 90 days before their departure to 90 days after they return.

Does this mean if your unit is designated to go to Iraq it wouldn't matter if your enlistment is up, say 45 days before deployment, you've basically been involuntarily extended in the service for at least a year and up to a 1.5 years since the tours are one year long!? That can't be correct.

draft?
 

mastertech01

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They call it "STOP LOSS" and it also serves to give proper medical evaluation when you return from theater.

During WWII your enlistment was for the duration plus 6 months if I recall right.
 

Crimson

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
In an added twist, the Army announced that soldiers in every unit designated for deployment to Iraq next year ? whether active duty or reserve ? will be prohibited from leaving the service during a period beginning 90 days before their departure to 90 days after they return.

Does this mean if your unit is designated to go to Iraq it wouldn't matter if your enlistment is up, say 45 days before deployment, you've basically been involuntarily extended in the service for at least a year and up to a 1.5 years since the tours are one year long!? That can't be correct.

draft?

You give up a lot of your civil rights when you join the military.. don't like it? Don't join.
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
In an added twist, the Army announced that soldiers in every unit designated for deployment to Iraq next year ? whether active duty or reserve ? will be prohibited from leaving the service during a period beginning 90 days before their departure to 90 days after they return.

Does this mean if your unit is designated to go to Iraq it wouldn't matter if your enlistment is up, say 45 days before deployment, you've basically been involuntarily extended in the service for at least a year and up to a 1.5 years since the tours are one year long!? That can't be correct.

draft?
Just like mastertech01 says, the program is called stop-loss. DoD undertook similar measures during Desert Storm. However back then, there were soldiers seperating from the service within a month after we returned from deployment.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
In an added twist, the Army announced that soldiers in every unit designated for deployment to Iraq next year ? whether active duty or reserve ? will be prohibited from leaving the service during a period beginning 90 days before their departure to 90 days after they return.

Does this mean if your unit is designated to go to Iraq it wouldn't matter if your enlistment is up, say 45 days before deployment, you've basically been involuntarily extended in the service for at least a year and up to a 1.5 years since the tours are one year long!? That can't be correct.

draft?

The military has always done this. Just prior to the war, the Air Force wouldn't let people retire (they enforced a stop loss also).
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Ferocious
In an added twist, the Army announced that soldiers in every unit designated for deployment to Iraq next year ? whether active duty or reserve ? will be prohibited from leaving the service during a period beginning 90 days before their departure to 90 days after they return.

Does this mean if your unit is designated to go to Iraq it wouldn't matter if your enlistment is up, say 45 days before deployment, you've basically been involuntarily extended in the service for at least a year and up to a 1.5 years since the tours are one year long!? That can't be correct.

draft?

The military has always done this. Just prior to the war, the Air Force wouldn't let people retire (they enforced a stop loss also).
 

Witling

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The military, sigh. The only job I ever had where they put you in jail if you were late for work.
 

Gaard

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I was at the dealership yesterday getting my car repaired...don't ask. Anyways, while I was waiting in the lounge I was reading an issue of Time (Sep 1, 2003). One of the articles was about the military. One passage stated that there are around 65,000 people in the service right now who have actually been made to stay in or lengthen their enlistment. They said it was due to a lack of certain skills in the military, and they listed some as translators, medical help, and something else that I can't remember.

If anyone has the issue laying around they could confirm this.
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Gaard
I was at the dealership yesterday getting my car repaired...don't ask. Anyways, while I was waiting in the lounge I was reading an issue of Time (Sep 1, 2003). One of the articles was about the military. One passage stated that there are around 65,000 people in the service right now who have actually been made to stay in or lengthen their enlistment. They said it was due to a lack of certain skills in the military, and they listed some as translators, medical help, and something else that I can't remember.

If anyone has the issue laying around they could confirm this.

It's true. My mother and stepfather are both in the air force - I've heard many stories about people who are bilingual who have been forced to stay in since they are needed in Iraq, etc.
 

Gaard

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Holy sh!t !! I was just over at Time's website to find the article. I found it alright, but in order to read it I have to BUY IT!! Are all magazine sites like this?
 

Witling

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"I see dumb people, and they're bitching about stupid stuff on Anandtech."

rbloedow


Now that's a signature!
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Whitling
"I see dumb people, and they're bitching about stupid stuff on Anandtech."

rbloedow


Now that's a signature!


Yea, I like it because it applies to most people in Politics and News :p