Can someone explain the scare tactics?

[montypythizzle]

Global Warming....
Oil Prices to go up exponentially...
Any other ones I am missing?
WHY do they do this???
Global Warming being the big "scarer" in the group.

 

[blackangst1]

It's typical of both parties to use scare tactics to get a vote. Remember the 80's and 90's? Democrats saying Republicans are going to cut social security and deplete it's funds? They did this in an attempt to get the 63+ voter crowd. It's nothing new for either party unfortunately.

 

[BoberFett]

Probably the same reason Republicans rely on "fighting terrism".

 

[jackschmittusa]

montypythizzle

Since when is global warming/climate change a "scare tactic"?

Unlike the Repubs use of terror threats, a mountain of data has been presented that the climat is changing.

The sky is falling, but we can't give any details due to national security, is a scare tactic.

 

[Rainsford]

Global warming is only a "scare tactic" if you failed 8th grade science. The overall impact might be slightly in dispute, as well as the timeframe we need to worry about it...but the range of reasonable scientific opinions goes from "a few decades" to "several decades". It IS real and it IS something we need to think about sooner or later. And it's more properly called global climate change, as it's very possible the end result will be cooling in some areas. As for oil prices, again, it's merely a question of when we're going to get knocked on our ass, not a question of whether or not oil will last forever.

As for the general question, I'd go with BoberFett...scared people are more likely to do what you say.

 

[blackangst1]

Lets not beat the global warming horse again...its plain and simple nothing we can do anything about.

 

[catnap1972]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Lets not beat the global warming horse again...its plain and simple nothing we can do anything about.

Yep--just keep on burnin that oil until the planet explodes :roll:

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: catnap1972

Originally posted by: blackangst1
Lets not beat the global warming horse again...its plain and simple nothing we can do anything about.

Yep--just keep on burnin that oil until the planet explodes :roll:

Pretty much.

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
montypythizzle

Since when is global warming/climate change a "scare tactic"?

Unlike the Repubs use of terror threats, a mountain of data has been presented that the climat is changing.

The sky is falling, but we can't give any details due to national security, is a scare tactic.

so how many years have we recorded weather data? 150 or so
i would be better off predicting things with a 1920 farmers almanac...

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Global warming is only a "scare tactic" if you failed 8th grade science. The overall impact might be slightly in dispute, as well as the timeframe we need to worry about it...but the range of reasonable scientific opinions goes from "a few decades" to "several decades". It IS real and it IS something we need to think about sooner or later. And it's more properly called global climate change, as it's very possible the end result will be cooling in some areas. As for oil prices, again, it's merely a question of when we're going to get knocked on our ass, not a question of whether or not oil will last forever.

As for the general question, I'd go with BoberFett...scared people are more likely to do what you say.

once again i would like to compare the 150 yrs of weather data we have with the millions of years not accounted for on this graph
btw who made that global warming movie?
Oh it was Al Gore who has many years of expertise in meteorology along with being a fortune teller...
you are telling me that doesnt scare people
FFS The Birds scared people...

 

[her209]

I think we should stick people into a glass box and fill it with CO2. :laugh:

 

[ArneBjarne]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
montypythizzle

Since when is global warming/climate change a "scare tactic"?

Unlike the Repubs use of terror threats, a mountain of data has been presented that the climat is changing.

The sky is falling, but we can't give any details due to national security, is a scare tactic.

so how many years have we recorded weather data? 150 or so
i would be better off predicting things with a 1920 farmers almanac...

150? Ever hear of something called ice cores?

 

[Legend]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Global warming is only a "scare tactic" if you failed 8th grade science. The overall impact might be slightly in dispute, as well as the timeframe we need to worry about it...but the range of reasonable scientific opinions goes from "a few decades" to "several decades". It IS real and it IS something we need to think about sooner or later. And it's more properly called global climate change, as it's very possible the end result will be cooling in some areas. As for oil prices, again, it's merely a question of when we're going to get knocked on our ass, not a question of whether or not oil will last forever.

As for the general question, I'd go with BoberFett...scared people are more likely to do what you say.

once again i would like to compare the 150 yrs of weather data we have with the millions of years not accounted for on this graph
btw who made that global warming movie?
Oh it was Al Gore who has many years of expertise in meteorology along with being a fortune teller...
you are telling me that doesnt scare people
FFS The Birds scared people...

They're accounting for tens of thousands of years in the past by taking samples from either antarctic or Greenland (I'm not sure which) which shows the C02 levels, which correlate with temperature. These are hard scientific facts that only political scientists have disputed.

Al Gore's movie did have a bunch of needless partisan jabs.

The problem with Global warming is not just than the temperature will rise a few degrees in 100 years, but that global climate is going to change. Places that were wet may become dry and vice versa.

People that go "oh it's so hot today, must be global warming" are probably blind faith democrats, and don't really understand global warming.

If you look at both political parties objectively, you'll find that they're both full of sh1t and use scare tactics.

 

[montypythizzle]

I'm not saying that global warming ISN'T going to happen, but it seems as if the liberals think that global warming is just going to take off in a sense tomorrow they don't account for how long it will take.
and btw Yeti could have planted those cores... wouldn't the last global warming melted those 0_o..

 

[glenn1]

The problem with Global warming is not just than the temperature will rise a few degrees in 100 years, but that global climate is going to change. Places that were wet may become dry and vice versa.

AFAIK, those who are skeptics on climate change don't dispute the reality that climate is subject to, and is indeed going to change. But why is what we're seeing now any different than anytime else in the entire history of the planet? The climate isn't a static system, frozen in amber for all time.

What the best of both proponents and skeptics of global warming could bring to the discussion would be a reasonable, measured consideration of what steps are economically rational to take in regards to manmade contributions to climate change. It makes no sense to demonize those pointing out that the point of diminishing returns can be reached in some of the actions advocated by either side.

 

[blackllotus]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
once again i would like to compare the 150 yrs of weather data we have with the millions of years not accounted for on this graph

If you are going to give your opinion on something atleast TRY to educate yourself on the subject. We actually have weather data from the past 650,000 or so years.

 

[montypythizzle]

The point is WHY?

and Why do they want the American population to be worried about terrorist attacks and what not... hasn't happened for 6 years... (YAST yet another scare tactic )
Hell when is the last time the terrorist alert level has changed? (i think the system was implemented by rpubs anyway)


TBH the liberals need to tell the American voters the honest and full truth and not implying that the Earth is going to go away next year and that glaciers are going to melt exponentially in the next month or so...

 

[blackllotus]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
TBH the liberals need to tell the American voters the honest and full truth and not implying that the Earth is going to go away next year and that glaciers are going to melt exponentially in the next month or so...

Nobody is saying that.

 

[Jaskalas]

As long as you can demonize America for something, the Democrats will be all over it.

As for global warming VS foreign threats.

I haven?t seen Global Warming behead people while praising god, consist of one side to every recent genocide, or detonate nuclear weapons. I guess the blood of millions of infidels across the globe is just a scare tactic, where as climate changes that have happened since before our existence are something we need to completely alter our way of life to prevent. Not to mention the fact that we?ve already listened, agreed on, and are enacting changes.

 

[glenn1]

The point is WHY?

Let's give them the benefit of the doubt and say one man's "scare" is another's honest concern. As with any possible contingiency, you'll have peoples' perception of the risk representing every part of the spectrum - from reasonable precaution, to foolhardy disregard, to paralyzing paranoia.

 

[montypythizzle]

Originally posted by: blackllotus

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
TBH the liberals need to tell the American voters the honest and full truth and not implying that the Earth is going to go away next year and that glaciers are going to melt exponentially in the next month or so...

Nobody is saying that.

notice: IMPLYING....
and that is the image i got is that they are trying to scare the average american

 

[Jhhnn]

Scholarly analysis of Antarctic ice cores, dating back over 400K years-

http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/

Me? I'm not buying any Florida Condo timeshares, or any Louisiana Real Estate, bet on that.

So-called "Liberal scare tactics" don't seem to have gotten anybody killed, wrecked the federal budget, or dishonored us in the eyes of the ROTW, so I figure they're pretty tame in comparison to what we've seen from the Rightwing...

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
As long as you can demonize America for something, the Democrats will be all over it.

As long as you can say the US did no wrong ever, and take no responsibility, Jaskalas will be all over it.

In fact, we never have had slavery, women always have had the right to vote, remarkably no Vietnamese were killed during the war, and our pollution is healthy.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: blackllotus

Originally posted by: montypythizzle
TBH the liberals need to tell the American voters the honest and full truth and not implying that the Earth is going to go away next year and that glaciers are going to melt exponentially in the next month or so...

Nobody is saying that.

notice: IMPLYING....
and that is the image i got is that they are trying to scare the average american

Hey man... honestly there appears to be a reason to be scared. There are plenty of other issues that the left tries to use to scare voters. (scared people pay attention to the things you want them to.. it's a tried and true campaign tactic).

Global warming related "scaremongering" is based on the overwhelming consensus of the entire scientific community. That's not scaremongering... that is being smart enough to recognize a scientific consensus and to act upon it.

If you are trying to say that the scientists are basing their conclusions on temperature readings for the last hundred years or so you have a very flawed understanding of the research behind global warming.

To address your original point, they are scaring people because (first of all... in this case they are right) they need issues to grab the attention of the voters. Same reason why republicans trot out The Evil Terrorists every two years or so.

 

[Darwin333]

Originally posted by: Legend

Originally posted by: montypythizzle

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Global warming is only a "scare tactic" if you failed 8th grade science. The overall impact might be slightly in dispute, as well as the timeframe we need to worry about it...but the range of reasonable scientific opinions goes from "a few decades" to "several decades". It IS real and it IS something we need to think about sooner or later. And it's more properly called global climate change, as it's very possible the end result will be cooling in some areas. As for oil prices, again, it's merely a question of when we're going to get knocked on our ass, not a question of whether or not oil will last forever.

As for the general question, I'd go with BoberFett...scared people are more likely to do what you say.

once again i would like to compare the 150 yrs of weather data we have with the millions of years not accounted for on this graph
btw who made that global warming movie?
Oh it was Al Gore who has many years of expertise in meteorology along with being a fortune teller...
you are telling me that doesnt scare people
FFS The Birds scared people...

They're accounting for tens of thousands of years in the past by taking samples from either antarctic or Greenland (I'm not sure which) which shows the C02 levels, which correlate with temperature. These are hard scientific facts that only political scientists have disputed.

Al Gore's movie did have a bunch of needless partisan jabs.

The problem with Global warming is not just than the temperature will rise a few degrees in 100 years, but that global climate is going to change. Places that were wet may become dry and vice versa.

People that go "oh it's so hot today, must be global warming" are probably blind faith democrats, and don't really understand global warming.

If you look at both political parties objectively, you'll find that they're both full of sh1t and use scare tactics.

I will admit that I don't know the first thing about meteorology or ice cores but... At least to me, it seems a bit odd that a meteorologist can not predict what the weather will be like next week (or barely tomorrow) with any degree of accuracy, but give him an ice cube and he can tell me what the global temperature was a few hundred thousand years ago?