Can someone explain stock options to me?

puffpio

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I don't really know what they mean

Here is the situation:

A company has offered x amount of stock options with a 5 year vesting period. I would be eligible for 20% of it in the first year, w/ an additional 5% every quarter. So that means by the time 5 years rolls around I will have all x shares or something.

The strike price is determined on the 15th of every month.


I don't quite understand what this mean. What is strike price? vesting? I think I understand the percentage part though
 

Pliablemoose

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I think you're confusing stock options trading with an employer's offer of a stock purchasing plan, evidently through a 401K or similar retirement tool.

They're very different animals.
 

Miramonti

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A stock option at a given price (strike price) enable you to buy the stock at that price at a date in the future...for you the future is staggered, 20% after the first year etc.

In the markets, 1 stock option means the right to buy 100 shares, but lets say its 1 to 1 in your case.

So let me try to break it down...ok hammertime here...

You get hired, they give you 100 stock options.
You are eligible for 20 in the first year.
Upon receiving those, a "strike price" is noted...
the stock is trading at $20 at the next 15th of the month, so that is your "strike price"
Since the stock option gives you the "right to purchase" at the strike price,
you make money if the stock goes above $20, and then cash in those options.
If the stock subsequently dips below $20, your stock options are worthless.
(because the "right to buy" at $20 is worthless when you can get it cheaper in the market).
So they aren't actually giving you $20 of stock, they are promising you the difference
between $20 and where its trading when you sell them.
If its trading at $50 and you redeem them, you will get $30 for each one that you sell.

So each time you get an additional 5%, a "strike price" based on the current stock price at the time
will be noted, and anything above that strike price, you profit (if its higher WHEN you sell them).

So this is a commitment to the company because you want to stock to increase over time so that you make money on all of your stock options. Problem in many situations is that employees get hired when the stock is at $50, thus this is their strike price, and the stock then drops to $20 and they are completely worthless.

Managers and especially executives are hired with large stock option incentives. Often when a high executive is hired, and their stock is at $50, they are offered a large package of stock options at $60 or $70. So at that present time they are worthless, but is incentive for him to get the company in great shape so the stock price rises above $70 so that he can profit bigtime!

When they have stock options with strike prices that are above the market like that, but the company is crapping out well below the strike price (thus making his options worthless), he then hires Arthur Andersen to cook his companies books to show wall street that this company has billions of dollars in profits even though its actually losing money....and then ignorant wall street buys the stock up to $80, and then the executive sells his options for handy profit, and then he suddenly retires for "personal reasons" with millions in his pocket, while his former company subsequently files for bankruptsy and then lays of 15,000 innocent employees who still have stock options AND stock in the company, but they didn't sell it, and its now worthless...and they go poor without their job and savings, and lose their house.

What were we talking about.?

Go figure. I hope this helps. :)
 

Mister T

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The only thing I would add is to clarify something:

An option is not neceasarily "worthless" if its "out-of-the-money" i.e., price is below strike.
You would obviously not exercise it, but if there is time remaining before it expires, it is definitely worth "something"
 

Phokus

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I think stock options are a horrible way to compensate executives... all it does is tempts executives to find ways to inflate the value of the stocks with questionable means (i.e. raising the value of stocks based on predicted future earnings potential). I think a better way to compensate them is through profit sharing: if the company makes money, the executive gets more in bonuses, if the company doesn't, oh well, he should be happy with his base pay.

 

Miramonti

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<< I think stock options are a horrible way to compensate executives... all it does is tempts executives to find ways to inflate the value of the stocks with questionable means (i.e. raising the value of stocks based on predicted future earnings potential). I think a better way to compensate them is through profit sharing: if the company makes money, the executive gets more in bonuses, if the company doesn't, oh well, he should be happy with his base pay. >>


Its also cheating the books because they can be very expensive for companies when executives cash in alot of them, but the expenses aren't put on the books as a cost of doing business (like payroll), so they costs aren't reflected on there quarterly P&L statements.
 

Miramonti

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One more thing, even though a stock price might fall considerably below strike prices making the value of the options gloomy at best, companies sometimes 're-price' options so the strike prices are closer to the lower value of the stock. Reason is to maintain the incentive for employees to stay at the company.