Can someone answer these two questions about Debian?

[beer]

On Debian 3.0r0, just released last week, they ship KDE2 and the 2.2 Linux kernel on it. Why?

 

[Nothinman]

1) The 2.4.x kernels are still too unstable for the Debian crew. I've had some issues on x86, let a lone the other 10 architectures Debian was released on. There are 2.4 boot-floppies and installable 2.4 kernels, they're just not the default.

2) KDE3 was released after woody was froze, only bug fixes were allowed in. XFree86 4.2 didn't make it in either.

KDE3 and XF42 packages are already built, they should be submitted to sid and filter into sarge shortly after things calm down.

 

[Workin']

Because KDE 3 and 2.4.x kernel are not stable enough to meet Debian's demanding requirements.

The 2.4.x kernel is readily available both at install time and later using apt-get.

KDE 3 is not yet available but should be soon in the 'testing' distribution. It is available in 'unofficial' packages, however.

 

[beer]

How difficult is it to install KDE 3.0?
In theory, your usual ./configure -> make -> make install is easy..but I always run into problems. Not even with dependencies, last night I was trying to install pango so I could install GTK and it couldn't find the X dev libraries...even when I pointed it to /usr/X11R6/lib/

 

[Nothinman]

How difficult is it to install KDE 3.0?

There's 2 lines you add to /etc/apt/sources.list and you can install it via apt, dselect, etc just like it was in the main distribution.

t couldn't find the X dev libraries...even when I pointed it to /usr/X11R6/lib/

It want's the header files, not the libraries. You need to install the -dev packages if you want to compile things. Why are you compiling them anyway?

apt-cache search pango
libpango-common - Dummy package for upgrading libpangox.x-common
libpango1.0-0 - Layout and rendering of internationalized text
libpango1.0-common - Modules and configuration files for the Pango
libpango1.0-dbg - The Pango library and debugging symbols
libpango1.0-dev - Development files for the Pango
libpango1.0-doc - Documentation files for the Pango

apt-cache search libgtk
libglib1.2 - The GLib library of C routines
libgtk-common - Dummy package for upgrading libgtkx.x-common
libgtk-imlib-perl - Perl module for the gdkimlib library.
libgtk-perl - Perl module for the gtk+ library
libgtk-pixbuf-perl - Perl module for the gdkpixbuf library.
libgtk-ruby - Gtk+ interface for scripting language Ruby
libgtk1.2 - The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X
libgtk1.2-common - Common files for the GTK+ library
libgtk1.2-dbg - Debugging files for the GIMP Toolkit
libgtk1.2-dev - Development files for the GIMP Toolkit
libgtk1.2-doc - Documentation for the GIMP Toolkit
libgtk2.0-0 - The GTK+ graphical user interface library
libgtk2.0-common - Common files for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
libgtk2.0-dbg - The GTK+ libraries and debugging symbols
libgtk2.0-dev - Development files for the GTK+ library.
libgtk2.0-doc - Documentation for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
...

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Why are you compiling them anyway?

He's probably compiling from source tarball so that he can hose his system and blame it on deb/rpm and ask where UnInstallShield is?

I sorta chuckle at the thought of how much wall time is spent "installing" Gentoo. For the typical user, there are maybe 10 packages tops worth recompiling with full CPU optimizations.

Just to be clear, I'm just being facetious and in no way attacking Elemental when I say "he".