Can I use two dual channel kits together?

Galatian

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Hi,

I'm currently running a ASRock Z97 Extreme9 and have two of its four memory banks populated with a dual channel G.Skill DDR3-2400 CL9 set. Can I get the same set again and populated the other two DIMM-slots or do I need a quad kit for that?
 

mikeymikec

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Unless the manual says you can't (I highly doubt that, it was common-ish in the days of DDR1, or at least there were some weird restrictions), you very likely can.
 

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There shouldn't be any issues with that, although I've heard people having difficulties with higher memory frequencies with 4 DIMMs installed. Likely nothing to worry about.
 

Berryracer

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I put 2 kits of Kingston HyperX 3K 1866 MHz. RAM in my Alienware 18 laptop

kit means nothing, all it does is that it's 2 pieces in a box, nothing magical about a kit, it's no different than buying 4 DIMMS separately
 

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kit means nothing, all it does is that it's 2 pieces in a box, nothing magical about a kit, it's no different than buying 4 DIMMS separately

That is not entirely true. If you buy four separate DIMMs you run the risk of getting DIMMs from different production batches. "Kits" are matched from the factory based on the individual operating characteristics of the DIMMs, meaning all DIMMs are guaranteed to work together at the rated frequency and timings. You don't have that guarantee if you buy the DIMMs separately, although there is minimal practical difference.
 

BonzaiDuck

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That is not entirely true. If you buy four separate DIMMs you run the risk of getting DIMMs from different production batches. "Kits" are matched from the factory based on the individual operating characteristics of the DIMMs, meaning all DIMMs are guaranteed to work together at the rated frequency and timings. You don't have that guarantee if you buy the DIMMs separately, although there is minimal practical difference.

Correct. Ideally you want to buy a pair in a kit. But the logic could seem to extend to different kits of the same speed and model, although it would be obviously much more important to consider how each module in a kit is matched to its dual-channel partner.

Proof of the pudding, though, should be found in the SPD summaries revealed by CPU-Z or similar utilities like AIDA-64. I bought a kit of 2x4GB G.SKILL "GBRL" 1600 modules in mid-2011; I bought a second kit of the same a year or so later. While the voltage, speed and latency specs are identical, the SPD data is slightly but noticeably different. But as XMP and otherwise stock settings, the two kits overlap.

And -- I was able to fill four slots with them and OC them to a very stable DDR3-1866 at the stock spec voltage and common looser timings.

For some RAM makers (I can only speak from particular first-hand experiences), one might pick one kit spec'd at a higher speed (one particular model), and another kit spec'd at a lower speed (and different model), and set them at a spec reflected in the SPD of both -- speed, voltage and timings. I say "might."

This latter possibility should only arise when you want to populate all slots and you have a likely candidate kit already handy -- wishing not to buy a "match" to the first kit. And you'd have to accept the possibility that the result could be less than ideal.
 

Berryracer

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That is not entirely true. If you buy four separate DIMMs you run the risk of getting DIMMs from different production batches. "Kits" are matched from the factory based on the individual operating characteristics of the DIMMs, meaning all DIMMs are guaranteed to work together at the rated frequency and timings. You don't have that guarantee if you buy the DIMMs separately, although there is minimal practical difference.
that makes sense, thanks for educating teh meh :whiste:
 

Bobsy

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On the same topic, but perhaps at a much more basic level, I am looking to build a new PC based on a mini-ITX mobo that has two memory slots. The spec sheet for the boards (all of them really) say: "Two slots, dual-channel". On a mATX board, there are "four slots, dual-channel". Since I will still enjoy two channels on mITX, does this mean I will see no adverse performance impact?
 

BonzaiDuck

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On the same topic, but perhaps at a much more basic level, I am looking to build a new PC based on a mini-ITX mobo that has two memory slots. The spec sheet for the boards (all of them really) say: "Two slots, dual-channel". On a mATX board, there are "four slots, dual-channel". Since I will still enjoy two channels on mITX, does this mean I will see no adverse performance impact?

You shouldn't see a performance impact between dual-channel on an mATX or an mITX -- for the same two-module RAM kit.

If it's a matter of "more or less" RAM, there might be a slight edge in performance if you have more. "More is better." Too much could be a waste.

If it's a matter of single-channel with one or three sticks and dual-channel with two or four, an edge of performance goes with dual-channel, but you won't notice any difference.