Can I use my old PIII in the 815E mobos

[terphi]

My motherboard is going out on me and will need to be replaced soon but I don't have the money to do a complete overhaul on my system. Can I use my old PIII 450 chip and PC-100 ram in the new 815E motherboards (I'm looking at the CUSL2 or Microstar's 815E Pro). Also, I have an old ATA/33 Western Digital drive that I can't get rid of yet, will it work as well?

If I can use all my old hardware which mobo should I buy? As I mentioned before, it will be ASUS's or Microstar's. I need at least 5 PCI slots and I want at least 4 USB ports and I heard that the CUSL2 has 7, is this correct? What other features should I look for?

Thanks.

 

[HaVoC]

Your only limitation here would be the physical interface of the chip. Your PIII 450 chip is a SECC2 Slot 1 interface which WILL NOT fit the new 815E motherboard since they use a Socket 370 interface. I'm not sure but you might be able to find a Slot 1 i815E mobo.

 

[KarsinTheHutt]

As far as I can tell, no Slot 1 i815e mobos exist.

 

[Mikewarrior2]

There is a slot 1 i815 mb coming from abit... check the anandtech front page news for it.



Mike

 

[terphi]

Do they make some sort of Slocket Adapter like they do for Athlon chips?

Also, will the 815E have enough voltage to run my old chip (I think the old .25 micron chips required 2.1 volts compared to 1.7 or something for the coppermines). Please correct me if I'm wrong, because I frequently am.

 

[HellRaven]

you are a very confused person terphi,

"Do they make some sort of Slocket Adapter like they do for Athlon chips?"

There is no slocket for athlon chips. Intel chips are the ones they make slockets for. The P3 450 is a SLOT PROCESSOR. The 815 motherboards are SOCKET motherboards. Abit has announced a slot 815 but it is at least a month until those will be available at most vendors. The slockets were built to allow SOCKET processors for Intel to fit into SLOT motherboards. You have a SLOT processor so a slocket would not do any good.

 

[AndyHui]

The CUSL2 can support 7 USB ports....but defaults to actually give you 5......2 in the normal I/O panel and then 3 in an extra bracket that comes with the motherboard. The remaining 2 are on the optional iPanel.

 

[hans007]

the new abit sh6, has slot1 and i815 other than that you are out of luck unless you are willing to buy a via 133 a motherboard.

 

[Midnight Rambler]

If you are keeping the same CPU and memory, at this point there is no need for you to buy a motherboard with the absolute latest technology. Instead buy a new motherboard based on the older Intel BX chipset, it's all you really need for your components, and you will save some money as they are much cheaper now since they aren't the bleeding-edge, latest & greatest, technology, which always translates in to the highest cost as well.

So take a look at MSI, Asus, or Aopen for one of their BX-based motherboards. You probably won't find one with 4 USB ports, but you could pick up a hub for that.

 

[Whitedog]

I would follow MR's advice and just get another BX board. They are true performers. Can't go wrong. Save you a few bucks too. When you get ready to upgrade CPU, you can then just get a slocket adapter.
With the right Video card, you can run your BX mobo at 133MHz bus too.

 

[terphi]

Well, thanks for the help, they just aren't the answers I want to here. I want an 815E for all the features that I will use in a few months, since I upgrade a piece at a time. That's why I don't want a BX mobo. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the AGP slot will run at 89 MHz when the bus is at 133 MHz, and I don't want a fried 3d accelerator.

I realize I might be putting my foot in my mouth here, but if you can convert a socket to a slot, why can't you convert a slot to a socket? It may be ungainly and fragile, but it seems feasable.

Well, I might have to bite the bullet and get a new CPU and Mobo all at once. Athlons systems are cheap, what are your opinions on them?

Please don't take offense if I sound pissy, I'm just frustrated.

 

[resinboy]

Does anyone know if the SH6(Intel815 chipset) has a 1/2 AGP divider ? I read all the press releases, and did not see it mentioned anywhere.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

amd sistems are fast and cheap I would get one before even thinking about intel. Intel has charged us eccesive amounts of cash for cpu's and now that amd has the lead I dont see em doing it.

 

[Sukhoi]

AFAIK all i815 based boards HAVE to have a 1/2 AGP divider because the boards were designed to run at a 133 MHz FSB.

 

[Midnight Rambler]

<< Intel has charged us eccesive amounts of cash for cpu's and now that amd has the lead I dont see em doing it. >>

The drivel of one who has obviously been involved in the PC world for a very short period of time. For the record, and prior to AMD's only recent resurgence, Intel cut prices on its processors 4 times per year (ie, once evry 3 months), every year. This was during the same period when a 4MB video card based on an S3 chip, such as the 968, cost in excess of $450. And a 200MB or less hard drive cost as much or more. And DRAM was even more expensive than these other examples cited.
This mantra that Intel has overcharged people for years is total BS. Comparatively, Intel didn't charge people any more for their products than any of the other hardware companies at the time. Take off the rose-colored glasses, do a little historical research, and get the facts straight. Then be thankful that you live in the time of unprecedented cheap hardware.

 

[terphi]

Okay, one last question. Athlons used to be really picky about several system components, especially RAM. Will my generic PC-100 give me stability issues? I assume AMD cleared up the Geforce issues since I haven't heard about it for a while.

 

[hans007]

i've used generic ram even in the old slot1 irongate systems and it worked more than half the time, the new boards are a lot better about it, you've got a pretty good shot at it working. The agp issues are all fixed, on the new via boards.

 

[Midnight Rambler]

You should make sure to have an AMD-approved power supply, I think that is probably the most important thing for you to look at now, esp. when using such a powerful video card.

 

[urbantechie]

<< There is no slocket for athlon chips >>



They make one for Duron/THunderbird chips.

 

[terphi]

Thank You, I knew I wasn't imagining things.

 

[Sukhoi]

<< They make one for Duron/THunderbird chips. >>



They do? I've never heard of one of those before. Can you give me a link?

 

[urbantechie]

My link doesn't work anymore, but it was here:



http://www.pc-mac2000.com/Shopping_Adpt_SlotA_SocketA_KX133.htm

 

[Sukhoi]

Oh, cool