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Can I use cat 5e Keystone jacks w/o punch block?

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octabot

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I am installing a network and the client does not want to spring for punch block or switch. Is there anyway I can go directly from the router to cat 5e Keystone jacks w/o a punch block?

I give up, and and really need some help,

thanks,

Octbabot
 
thanks for the link, I am about to look at it..

What I have is router plugged into the cat 5 cables through normal 8pin jacks - this runs throught the property and to the outlets. If I put 8pin on the end of these I have an excellent internet connection - but If I put the jakcs on I have no connection,. either a or b.

Any suggestions?

MK
 
The end of the cable on the router end -- terminated on a plug or a jack? If a plug and neither A or B jacks on the other end will work then you have the jack mis-wired. (or a bad cable which is unlikely)

Proper setup is: router - patch cable - floor cable with jacks both ends - patch cable - computer.
 
How are you punching the cable into the keystone jacks?
Jacks are made for solid cables, you are using solid cables, right?

You should be able to see what the wiring of the cable is from the connector right? You can't see whether the cable is A or B through the connector? Most cables I've seen are B.

As you have found, jacks on one end and plugs on the other generally don't work out well. You made a bad move in not insisting on a patch panel. You will ultimately end up spending so much time on the patch panel-less solution that your client will see a higher overall cost because of your labor. If you fixed your labor rate, than you screwed yourself.
 
Jacks on one end and plugs on the other should work fine, as long as you have both ends of the cable wired the same. I've used this arrangement in several cases, and have never had a problem with it that wasn't caused by a mis-placed wire. In your case, it sounds like you have something wired wrong. Either you have the plugs wired as 568A and the jacks wired as 568B, the other way around, or something totally different.


Check out the "How to make CAT5 Cables" link off of JackMDS's first link for more information regarding the proper way to wire the plugs; the keystone jacks should come with their own instructions for wiring, though there is also the "Keystone Jacks" section on that same page.

JW
 
Run far far away from this customer. If they won't implement a network correctly on the front side, they will certianly hold your feet to the fire for all problems assoiated with their corner cutting down the road. Cabling is the foundation of a network, and if the foundation isn't solid, neither will the network be stable.
 
I agree with MtnMan 100%.

If you don't install the system according to specs, your legal A$$ is hanging out big-time (especially if you're charging for the job).

Sure enough, they love you now .. you're gonna save 'em some money. As soon as something doesn't work, it'll be (in their mind) your schlock work and failure to properly comply with the specs and standards. It'll stand up in court too. You'd be seriously hosed without a contract that specifically spells out that the customer is aware of the corner cutting and the associated problems and agrees to accept all the liabillity (they won't sign a contract like that though ... and if they did, you'd still be stuck doing the warranty work to make it work properly ... at your expense).

It's a bad idea anyway. You want the static segments in a fixed position, with jumpers taking the strain and abuse.

Whatever.

.02

Scott
 
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