Can I route my cable connection through a hub?

[Fenix793]

Hey,

I've got two computers, a hub, and a cable modem. If I plug my cable modem into my hub along with the two computers can they both get net access? Or is it not so simple?

Thanks,
Fenix793

 

[Wah]

you need 2 IP addresses, or a router

 

[Bumboy]

buy another ip address or go look for the software that does it

i dont remember the name of it

 

[bigboi1881]

i have 2 computers connected to my cable modem. the way i have it set up is a 4 port hub then connected to a GATEWAY ROUTHER (netgear RT314) its pretty simple i connected it myself

 

[salman327]

How much did that run you bigboi?

 

[huyvu]

The netgears currently run about $90-$100 (was going for $50 with rebate a month ago). You can also get the SMC barricade routers for $60 after $40 or $50 rebate - currently at J and R. Stay away from Linksys routers - lots of firmware problems.

 

[nEoTeChMaN]

huyvu, Linksys router are great...as long you have firmware 1.39.

I have no problems with it. I can do 3-4 downloads (each 250-300KB/s) at the same time without lockups. I can look at my own domain name on my server without any hangups.

 

[SaidMohammed]

You don't need to buy any more equipment. I currently use a hub to share my cable Internet connection with 4 computers.

If your hub has an uplink port, connect the cable modem to it. Then, connect all your computers to the hub as normal. You should be able to use each computer independently to access the internet and also to access each other. It works great for a LAN, and is far less expensive than buying extraneous equipment.

 

[andalas]

Connecting a cable modem directly to a hub uplink will only works if your cable modem provider allowed you to aquire more than 1 IP from the same account.

 

[CZroe]

Right. My cable co doesn't allow me to, but they must have something misconfigured because all my PCs can lease static IPs freely with nothing more than a hub. Of course, even though it's been a year I can't rely on that, so do what I plan on doing. If you have more than one PC & you already have a hub, just buy a second cheap network card & pop that into the computer that is already connected. You can then set up a private LAN that can access the internet through your gateway computer (The one with 2 network cards & the internet connection). This means that your gateway computer still has an outside IP address for hosting servers & sharing files & such without the problems of being behind a firewall/proxy. Most DSL/Cable routers don't have that luxury because they act as the gateway. Win98 & above's Internet Connection Sharing Wizard should make it easy once you have the second ethernet card & the hub. If you must get a router get the UGATE model with "demilitarized zones" (allows you to choose what computer connected get's the outside IP and uses local Network Address Translation on the others). I guess that's everything these guys left out that I have to add Anything else anyone?

 

[myforum]

This url explains it;
http://www.jaginc.org/hd_network.htm

and it has lots of other links.

CU8er

 

[Scouzer]

All I have is a hub, connected up the 2 computers through the hub, put in the uplink into the hub and it worked. That was all it took no software nothing. Plus I don't need to buy another IP, even though I only get 1 IP per account...It also was a mere $60 Canadian.

 

[CZroe]

Sounds like a little more than a simple hub then. Hubs are dirt cheap (All of mine were free ). Your's is probably designed for sharing 1 IP like all the ~$60 home broadband routers. Otherwise, unless your ISP really does give you 2 IPs when you are supposed to have one, then there is no way you are using a normal hub. Even if both PCs IPs are reported different, this is because it is using network addres translation & those are not Internet IP addresses (Unless your ISP is allowing more than 1 ip & you are using a standard hub).

Oh yeah, that Canadian currency
I still think it's more than a hub if your ISP is supposed to make you pay for another IP!

 

[DuffmanOhYeah]

I would try a linksys router. I have had a Linksys BEFSR41 for a year and a half w/ 4 machines and it works flawlessly. Was very impressed with the setup and ease of use.

 

[Floydian]

Cable companies sometimes do not check how many IP's each house is using, so anomylies like the above works fine. If you set your computers to DHCP and use a hub, with the modem plugged into the uplink port, you can use many computers using their own connection through DHCP, even though you haven't paid for another IP.

At least this is how it works in my town

 

[Fenix793]

Hmm I guess I'll just have to use Windows ICS. I wanted to go hardware but I don't have money for a router/switch.

Thanks all,
Fenix793

 

[NetGuySC]

I have two computers connected to cable.

I have two lan cards or are they called ethernet cards, in my #1 computer.

Cable comes from wall into Computer #1 ethernet card...cable goes from computer #1's second ethernet card to my hub...cable goes from hub to computer #2

Both are online and work flawlessly

 

[Kinki]

i think this is the deal. cable provider rely on the stupidity and trust of its customer to tell them if you have extra IPs or not. so if your provider is that dumb you can have a hub with different ip for each computer without paying extra. but i have heard that some providers do check themselves (guess they need the money bady) and when they dicover that you have an extra ip they will automatically charge your cable bill for it.

i don't like to the hassle of them charging me extra all of a sudden, so i decided to go the safe root and just buy a router (routers are dirt cheap right now when compared to it 1-2 years ago).

if you have a hub laying around why not just take the risk and see what happens. but if you don't then i would just get a router and avoid the hassle and extra fees you might need to pay.

 

[burnedout]

At one of the locations where I work, we have 7 puters running into a switch. And then the switch runs directly into the DSL modem. The DSL is DHCP, not static. No router.

One of the 7 is a server which has four other clients on another network.

All log on with the Client for MS. All access the net OK.

 

[Fenix793]

Ugh i just finished routing my house with cables and now my cable modem doesnt wanna connect to the server. Dammit this sucks.

 

[Kinki]

buy yourself a router (smc = cheap) and save yourself the trouble and time.



<< Ugh i just finished routing my house with cables and now my cable modem doesnt wanna connect to the server. Dammit this sucks. >>

 

[Fenix793]

no i mean it doesnt wanna connect to the optimum online server...i cant even go online on one computer so now im on the dialup. damn i took my cable connection for granted...this sucks