'Can I quit now?' FEMA chief wrote as Katrina raged

laFiera

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Well i just love the quote below because again it shows how so well informed mr bush is!

On September 12 Brown resigned, 10 days after President Bush told him, "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."


and i think the man still on the payroll? :)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A Louisiana congressman says e-mails written by the government's emergency response chief as Hurricane Katrina raged show a lack of concern for the unfolding tragedy and a failure in leadership.
 

Genx87

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Repost and honestly some of the worst reporting I have seen in awhile.

Taking quotes out of context in a big way.

I am all for laying blame where blame is due, but this cherry picking of quotes that are taken out of context is just wrong.
 

Polish3d

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Bush tries to be encouraging to everyone, he always will tell someone they did a good job after a speech, it's a good trait of his, though he was wrong to say it to "Brownie"


I liked though how the local authorities have escaped almost all criticism in the MSM while they keep harping on Brownie.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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everyone deserves blame, but local officials are appointed by the people. while it's true that we appointed Bush, Bush nominated Brown to head FEMA. this, to me, represents a more serious mistake because FEMA is such an important organization to this country, and we cannot allow incompetence like that. it is clear this guy had no idea what he was doing and wanted out as soon as possible. he deserves everything he has coming to him, and so does this administration.
 

irwincur

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Stupid people. Understand the law of the land. This disaster was a State issue and as such the Federal Government is to have a limited influence.

Simple basic law - States vs. Feds is the oldest argument in US politcal history.

Quit being so reliant on the Federal Government - we have already given them enough power.
 

filterxg

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It's basically a domino effect and one has to take the burden...none did so its everybody's fault.

1st Line: Local (think Guliani), he failed.
2nd Line: State (think Jeb last year), she failed.
3rd Line: Federal, and Brownie failed.

Anyway I say make Colin Powell czar of New Orleans, throw a bunch of money in his lap and focus on the next disaster so at least somebody will take responsibility.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: filterxg
It's basically a domino effect and one has to take the burden...none did so its everybody's fault.

1st Line: Local (think Guliani), he failed.
2nd Line: State (think Jeb last year), she failed.
3rd Line: Federal, and Brownie failed.

Anyway I say make Colin Powell czar of New Orleans, throw a bunch of money in his lap and focus on the next disaster so at least somebody will take responsibility.

1st Line think Guiliani . . . different event, relatively small part of the city
2nd Line think Jeb . . . different hurricane, different geography
3rd Line . . . yeah obviously the same agency worked much better under Clinton era leadership . . . go figure.

As for Colin Powell, you don't get credit for taking responsibility if you wait until it doesn't matter.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Stupid people. Understand the law of the land. This disaster was a State issue and as such the Federal Government is to have a limited influence.
Not as stupid as you look for your ridiculous comment. First, there's this agency called Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). Let's parse those words:

Fed·er·al (fed'?r-?l, fed'r?l) pronunciation, adj.
  • 1. Of, relating to, or being a form of government in which a union of states recognizes the sovereignty of a central authority while retaining certain residual powers of government.

    2. Of or constituting a form of government in which sovereign power is divided between a central authority and a number of constituent political units.

    3. Of or relating to the central government of a federation as distinct from the governments of its member units.
E·mer·gen·cy (i-mûr'j?n-se) pronunciation, n., pl. -cies.
  • 1. A serious situation or occurrence that happens unexpectedly and demands immediate action.

    2. A condition of urgent need for action or assistance: a state of emergency.
adj.
  • For use during emergencies: emergency food rations.
Man·age·ment (man'ij-m?nt) pronunciation, n.
  • 1. The act, manner, or practice of managing; handling, supervision, or control: management of a crisis; management of factory workers.

    2. The person or persons who control or direct a business or other enterprise.

    3. Skill in managing; executive ability.
A·gen·cy (a'j?n-se) pronunciation, n., pl. -cies.
  • 1. The condition of being in action; operation.

    2. The means or mode of acting; instrumentality.

    3. A business or service authorized to act for others: an employment agency.

    4. An administrative division of a government or international body.
Then, there's this from the "about" page
The 1960s and early 1970s brought massive disasters requiring major federal response and recovery operations by the Federal Disaster Assistance Administration, established within the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). Hurricane Carla struck in 1962, Hurricane Betsy in 1965, Hurricane Camille in 1969 and Hurricane Agnes in 1972. The Alaskan Earthquake hit in 1964 and the San Fernando Earthquake rocked Southern California in 1971. These events served to focus attention on the issue of natural disasters and brought about increased legislation. In 1968, the National Flood Insurance Act offered new flood protection to homeowners, and in 1974 the Disaster Relief Act firmly established the process of Presidential disaster declarations.
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The new agency was faced with many unusual challenges in its first few years that emphasized how complex emergency management can be. Early disasters and emergencies included the contamination of Love Canal, the Cuban refugee crisis and the accident at the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant. Later, the Loma Prieta Earthquake in 1989 and Hurricane Andrew in 1992 focused major national attention on FEMA. In 1993, President Clinton nominated James L. Witt as the new FEMA director. Witt became the first agency director with experience as a state emergency manager. He initiated sweeping reforms that streamlined disaster relief and recovery operations, insisted on a new emphasis regarding preparedness and mitigation, and focused agency employees on customer service. The end of the Cold War also allowed Witt to redirect more of FEMA's limited resources from civil defense into disaster relief, recovery and mitigation programs.
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As it has for more than 20 years, FEMA's mission remains: to lead America to prepare for, prevent, respond to and recover from disasters with a vision of "A Nation Prepared." At no time in its history has this vision been more important to the country than in the aftermath of Sept. 11th.
Simple basic law - States vs. Feds is the oldest argument in US politcal history.

Originally posted by: irwincur
Quit being so reliant on the Federal Government - we have already given them enough power.
Let's see. Hurricanes caused a variety of disasters in a large part of the south-eastern U.S. across Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, including death, injury disease and hunger, loss of income for individuals, as well as city and state governments, and they demolished and damaged housing, commercial buildings, and infrastructure from wind, floods and pollution.

That sounds like disaster to me, and those hurricanes didn't stop to recognize any city or state boundries. How much more of a Federal problem would you like it to be?

Michael Brown was a first class dipwad who didn't have a clue. He still doesn't.

What's worse is, he's still collecting a paycheck from FEMA! :roll: