Can i oc this Gigaram for my opteron 165? And more advice

[JaceAce32]

Hey guys bulding my 2nd rig and i'm as always on a budget $1000 or so.
I want to Oc to the high heavens tho, or as much as i can at stable speeds.

So far i'm looking at an opteron 165
7800gt w/ free evga mobo
This ram: gigaram 2GB (2 x 1GB)
Antec Smartpower 2.0 500w
** I need a case = $60** All black with side window and ability for alot of fans 2 front (1 x 120) 2 back (1 x 120) and 1 on the side

I know the opteron can oc, but any advice on the ram? i'm looking to get the 165 to 2.7 ghz...

Thanks in advance

 

[JaceAce32]

lol, throw me a bone here guys

 

[nealh]

Originally posted by: JaceAce32
Hey guys bulding my 2nd rig and i'm as always on a budget $1000 or so.
I want to Oc to the high heavens tho, or as much as i can at stable speeds.

So far i'm looking at an opteron 165
7800gt w/ free evga mobo
This ram: gigaram 2GB (2 x 1GB)
Antec Smartpower 2.0 500w
** I need a case = $60** All black with side window and ability for alot of fans 2 front (1 x 120) 2 back (1 x 120) and 1 on the side

I know the opteron can oc, but any advice on the ram? i'm looking to get the 165 to 2.7 ghz...

Thanks in advance

Ok..165 will not likely hit 2.7ghz..some do but these are great chips..you may have been lucky but do not be disappointed if you do not reach it..my 165@2610 will not much more and I am a nice vcore of 1.46

I was stupid and started to see monarch ship 0530 oem 170 so I bit and bought...jeez I am a moron..anyway I digress

165 will typically hit 2.5-2.6ghz at very high rate..it seems these chips overclock very well on low voltage then hit wall and really "large jumps" in vcore are need to get 50-100mhz

my 165@2400 stock vcore in bios of 1.35/1.33 winxp..4hrs dual small fft prime 95
@2500 I needed 1.41 bios vcore/1.3972 winxp..7hrs dual small fft Prime95
@2610 needed 1.46v..15hrs dual small fft Prime 95 when i stopped
@2650 no go at 1.5v+

so first set ram 133 divider and get cpu max before you deal with the ram...run dual prime 95 for at least 1 hr..once you get a max cpu..run dual Prime 95 for at least 8hrs to make sure you are stable

then turn your attention to the ram

I would set the ram to 3-3-3-8-1t and increase the MHZ...testing with memtest86 to make sure you get 0 errors...once you find the speed ..you can tighten timings back to lower values...when you increase ram DDR/timings it will need more vdimm..and this ram takes 3.0v..so need a board that provides alot of vdimm

BTW I saw post at newegg that this ram may not work on the DFI mobo

I would check here:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9

you may get more info

the DFI SLI-DR, which I own, is picky with ram..beware

Also the DFI SLI-DR overvolts from what you get in BIOS by 0.05-0.1 v

 

[JaceAce32]

thanks nealh
does anyone know about the gigaram though? would it be a good overclocker? if not could somebody throw me a bone towards a same priced 2gb (2x1gb) with oc potential?

 

[Leper Messiah]

Gigaram? I dunno, never heard of them before, but 2.5-4-4-7 timings at 3vdimm is pretty crappy IMHO. The evga board goes up to 3.2, so you're okay there.

 

[MBrown]

Gigaram

:laugh:

 

[nealh]

Hmm..Are you going to use the DFI mobo...best OCing mobo out there but it is ram picky...

I personally would staff away from ram that needs 3.0v..

also the best ram is TCCD/TCC5 chips...overclock well but they can be expensive

OCZ makes great ram and excellent CS...several of the OCZ people are around here and at Bleedingedge and DFI streets

Remember with the A64, dual core, opterons ..cpu mhz is no.1 importance for performance and speed, ram speed is small part %...there is A64 optimizer look in Zebo sig..90% is cpu speed, 10% ram and everything else htt etc 0%

I say get 2 gb of ram and at good price from oCZ..you can email them and they will even help you choose what you need for your needs

BUT money spent on expensive ram is better placed on other components(do not go cheap)..I got crucial valuram over the summer pc3200 2 x 1gb that clock 250mhz @3-3--3-7-1t...and I saw no difference vs low latency 2-2-2-5-1t @200mhz..I paid $220 but prices were higher then..it was the price at the time for 2 gb

 

[JaceAce32]

does anyone know about the gigaram though? would it be a good overclocker? if not could somebody throw me a bone towards a same priced 2gb (2x1gb) with oc potential?

 

[xgunnas32]

i can answer that right now, no, the stock timings is 2.5-4-4-7. the most common oc for 165 (just started looking 2hours ago) is around 2.5-2.7, u are looking at ram that will do decent timings at ddr 600, the gigaram is definitely not it, u may have to blow around 300dollars on ram, the most sure one that comes to me is either
ocz gold(too many of them, i've only worked with this one)-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227208, timing with dfi ultra-d mobo was actually 2.5-4-4-7 @ddr600 that would make the specs at 300*9=2.7
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146890
these are more common, and is cheaper, but not every1 gets it to work at ddr600, i got stuck at ddr580 9/10 @ 2.5-4-3-7but that still makes it 290*9=2.61

these rams are only expansive if u decide to get 2 sets

i've also tried geil one with ultra-d mobo, runs 2-2-2-5 @ ddr520, but it does require 3.4v to run that, but this cpu should work well with geil one, i got stuck cause of my cpu on that one

 

[JaceAce32]

Okay, i'm not using the dfi board.. I'm planning on using the "eVGA 133-K8-NF41 motherboard" and if anyone can answer these questions
does anyone know about the gigaram though?
would it be a good overclocker?
if not could somebody throw me a bone towards a same priced ($165) 2gb (2x1gb) with oc potential?

 

[JaceAce32]

bump bump, i know its the same Q, but it wasnt really answered, if we could get a poll going... kudos

 

[n7]

Last time i checked up on Gigaram, the majority of the stuff they were selling wasn't even working at stock settings, nevermind OCed.

I don't feel like looking for links, but you can do a search, & the threads you find will have links to the fun people were having with it.

I'd personally stay far far away, but who knows, maybe they're okayish now.