can i have 4 ide + 1 ata hdd?

substance12

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not sure if i'm asking this correctly, but some of the new large hdd's require an ATA card which I'm guessing plug into a PCI slot. Is it possible to have all your IDE slots used up and add an ATA hard drive on top of that?

also, what is the difference between SATA and ATA?
 

JustAnAverageGuy

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IIRC, ATA and IDE are the same thing as far as plugs and cables go.

Newer 137GB+ HDDs only need a controller card if your motherboard doesn't support that high of capacities. Look for a BIOS update.

To answer your intitial question.

ex.

3 HDD
2 optical drives

on only 2 IDE channels.

no.

However, you can get something like a Promise UltraATA133TX2 controller that will add two more channels which will allow up to another additional 4 devices at the cost of one PCI slot. NewEgg has them for under $40.

SATA uses a much smaller cable, 7 'pins'. Max 150MB\Sec, One device per channel

IDE is the standard 'Ribbon' cable that had 40 pins. Max 133MB\Sec, Two devices per channel.

 

substance12

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yes, the promise controller is what i was thinking of. so i can add more than 4 devices if the 5th device is on the promise controller... at the cost of 1 pci slot and $40 from newegg.

the mb i have is an 8rda+. it's not that im interested in adding a 137+ gb hdd... rather I'm interested in adding another hdd and i have no more ide channels available.

sounds like SATA is better than ATA. is it worth it?
 

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Serial (SATA) is much better than Parellel (PATA) because it has increased bandwidth capabilities. Unfortunately, I don't see any real product taking advantage of this too much yet. There's that 10,000RPM Raptor which has a steep price tag but is pretty darn quick (I'm using one to load up commonly used programs). It also is lacking in disk space (36.7gb).
 

JustAnAverageGuy

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You won't notice a different between ATA66, ATA100, or ATA133. or SATA150.

Your main concern is basically, what interface does the drive that you want to use have?
 

substance12

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well i don't have the hdd yet. but im guessing it'll be ata133. i took a look at newegg and what promise controllers they had to offer.

they had

PROMISE ULTRA133TX2 CONTROLLER CARD - RETAIL for $43

Promise Serial ATA PCI Controller with (2) Serial ATA ports and (1) ATA/133 Channel Sata150 TX2plus for $45

Promise Serial ATA PCI Controller with (2) Serial ATA ports and (1) ATA/133 Channel Sata150 TX2plus - Retail for $50

i couldn't tell the difference between the latter two. just about identical in specs too. i doubt ill need SATA, but i'd get it JUST in case.
 

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usually if you buy one of those big HHD's (160Giger) it will come with a controller card that will add 2 more IDE's allowing 4 more drives.

is your case going to be big enough to hold all that stuff? what about your power supply?
 

substance12

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right now i have 1 dvdrom, 1 cdrw, 2 120gb hdd, 8rda+ mb, ati 9500, 256+512 ram, 1 floppy, and a fortron 400w ps. I duno, do I have enough juice to power one more hdd?