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DL402

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This is my first build, so please give me some advice on it.

NEC Black IDE/ATAPI DVD Burner Model ND-3550A - OEM - $39.75
XION Black XION II XON-103 SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W Power - $64.99
EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail - $105.00
XFX PVT42GUAD7 Geforce 6800GS 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
- $199.00
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model VS1GBKIT400 - Retail - $81.00
AMD Opteron 165 Denmark 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model OSA165CDBOX - Retail - $325.00
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM - $56.00

Total including shipping : $915.89

My budget is $800-900 so I might be able to barely buy these parts.

What does the OEM on the harddrive and DVD burner mean? Would the OEM version be harder to set up for a beginner like me instead of the retail version?

All those prices are from newegg, I tried to find some better deals from other websites but I didnt come up with anything, so if someone does find a better deal please show me.

Overall does this build seem good? Any changes that I should make that would have a better performance for a cheaper price?

Thanks.
 
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DL402

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That case costs more than the Xion though, and the Xion looks better than that.
 
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JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: DL402
That case costs more than the Xion though, and the Xion looks better than that.
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You aren't paying for the case. you're paying for the power supply because the one you selected is pretty weak and probably will require replacement :p

Asthetics are a personal preference, but IMO that case is ugly :p
 
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firewolfsm

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it looks good, but you should get a better power supply
that mobo comes with all the cables you need so don't worry about your drives being OEM
do you really need dual-core, i would go for an opteron 144/146 for a lot cheaper
 
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DL402

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Whats a good case thats less than $75 that looks good with a good powersupply?

Also, do the cases come assembled with the power supply in them or do you have to attach it?

And I would like the dual core.
 
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aloser

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Most (though not all) included PSUs are crappy. And under $75 for the combo is DEFINITELY gonna be a crappy PSU.
 
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Mik3y

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the case and psu you chose is total crap. get the case if you want, but buy a new psu. will you be overclocking? if not, i highly recommend you get the x2 3800+. it performs the same as the 165, but it's also about $30 cheaper at zipzoomfly.com.
 
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Cerberos

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I'd buy a new power supply if I were you instead of those cases that came in WITH the power supply - Antec and PC Power & Cooling make one of the best PSU - I'd agree with phoenix by getting Antec case - because of the power supply instead of those cases that you were thinking of getting
 
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aloser

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Had you read the reviews, you'd see that the PSUs in both cases are generic. NEVER, EVER get a generic PSU. As already stated, most included PSUs are crappy, and for under $75, you can rest easy knowing that it's definitely a crappy PSU that's being included.

The whole point is that you're welcome ti skimp on the rest of the parts, but NEVER skimp on a PSU.

No, better yet, if you really don't care about the quality yet, go right ahead and buy any case/PSU combo you like. Just don't come back crying when the PSU blows and renders your whole computer useless. Maybe then you'll learn the REAL value of buying a high-quality power supply.
 
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Broly

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Thats going a bit far, Aloser

he doesnt seem to have much leeway in how much he can spend man, lay off.

alot of people see an extra 70 dollars as food for the whole week man.

jeez.
 
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If your on a budget i would buy an antec smart power 350 or 400 watt psu. They are not the greatest but they are the best bang for your buck. You can pick one up for around $50. Just look on zipzoomfly or newegg. I used to feel the same way until i had a PSU go bad and fry my mobo and cpu. You do NOT want that to happen if you are on a budget. You should skimp somewhere else and buy a decent PSU. I would do like the other poster said drop down in CPU for a better psu and case. What good will a fryed opteron be? Or save up for another month and dump an extra $100 to get a decent case and PSU.

90% of the general public really has no need to OC. It is mostly for people who like benchmarks or enjoy the actual act of overclocking. There is really no need for the average joe to even consider OC'ing. You will not see a huge increse in your performance. And there is always the voided warranties for OCing on a lot of products. Take my advice buy a solid reliable system and dont worry about overclocking.
 
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alimoalem

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you can get a fortron 400w for $40 or 450w for $50.
looks good but i'm pretty sure i've seen the ram for $77. check out zipzoomfly.com and monarchcomputers.com (might be monarchcomputer.com without the 's')
 
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aloser

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I understand the part of "low budget" people and computers; however, it seems to me that by spending $900+ on parts, there's room to spare for a good PSU somewhere. Personally, I'd go with spending more money on the power supply and get a different processor and maybe mobo.
 
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duragezic

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Those fancy looking cases are riced the hell out, ugly, and often have crappy PSUs. Forget getting those, and at the least get a case without PSU (a riced one even, if that's your taste) and a Fortron 400w or 450w to put in there.


And right, I agree with that other guy. You are a newbie at this but getting the overclocking processor and skimping on the PSU? NOT a good idea. First thing is to get it working and stable, tweaking it for a little bit (I say this since getting large gains may be fairly involved) of performance can come later.

So I would save a little cash and get the 3800+ if you really want dual core, then spend that $20 on a better PSU (with or without case, but as long as you have a good PSU you can get a $20 for all that really matters). Some people get boners for Antec cases, and yes budget ones do skimp on certain things, but really for whats important you can go for a $20 case. Hell my bro has an Athlon XP system in a $25 case with its included PSU that works fine, and my case w/o PSU was only $19 and its been suitable for 1.5 years, though in another month or two I'm going to get a nice and small case with high-quality fans cause this fvcer is noisy.
 
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Arcanedeath

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Get a Fortron AX450-PN 450 watt PSU it can be had for $50 and its by far the best bang for the buck PSU around then chose your case with whats left.
 
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DL402

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Alright, well I decided to get a x2 3800+, which clears my case/PSU budget to around $90ish now.
So any other cases I should consider besides the Antec Sonata one or just buying a cheap case and plugging a $50+ PSU on it?
And what are the advantages of full/mid/mini towers?

Also if I buy a cheap case, would it come with fans or would I have to buy those too?

Yeah, I'm a newbie at this, but thanks, I'm learning stuff everyday.
 
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d3lt4

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You can get the 6800gs for $180 if you look around (usually with rebates). And an Abit AN8 is only $90, then you could keep the opteron, but it's your machine.
 
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Rumple

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Personally if those are the cases i had to choose from i would get this one:

Case

Toss the included PSU in you junk closet. The set up seems ok and it has a 120mm fan in it. It has room for 3 fans which should do you good. Cant guarantee how quiet it will be but the more 120mm fans the better. And it looks pretty decent on the outside. Looks like you would only have to buy 1 fan for the side door. Those can be had for less than 10 bucks.

Being your first build i would get a case with plenty of room inside. Its tough building in a little case especially if its your first time.
 
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HybridSquirrel

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get dual core while you can. i agree on an x2 if ur gonna be a gamer. i like my opty but i feel as if it is for more advanced users than i am. im scared to oc lol!! i can set together a computer pretty damn well but im scared to oc
 
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aloser

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Honestly, get whatever case you like. It's really only the PSU that you have to watch for. Luckily, all cases include fans, so that's not an added expense. As to Full vs mid vs mini/micro tower differences, primarily it's size. the most common is mid; that's what 95% or more of the companies use (Dell/HP/Compaq/Gateway/etc.) and, like the full tower, will accept nearly any motherboard. As to the mini tower (sometimes called micro tower), those are the cases that are designed for the mATX mobos (Micro ATX; typically a 12-inch square, and good for computers in small spaces).
 
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