can i get a reference fps from someone with a radeon 8500 to 9500 using ut2003 benchmark?

[jonn]

I am just looking for a benchmark score using the UT2003 benchmark.exe running it at 640x480 rez. to "ballpark" my Powercolor 9000 against a true ATI.Of course your computer specs will help as well so i can compare. Mine are:
AMD 1800 non OC
256 megs pc 333 2700 non OC
XP pro
Maxtor 7200 rpm
powercolor radeon 9000 128 meg video non OC
anyone with a rig close to this and wants to give it a shot, i thank you.

 

[CurtCold]

Stock 9500 pro with 16x and 6x I get about 43fps in botmatch, but that's at 1024*768*32. I can run it tonight when I get home from work at 640*480 and let you know what I get with the rig in my sig. 1600XP, 512MB PC 2100 ddr, Sapphire card. I'll let you know tonight. Pretty close to your rig.

 

[selfbuilt]

A few thoughts:

1. I don't how easy it will be for you to compare other setups, since I know my 9500 Pro defaults to max settings in UT2K3 benchmark, but I'm not sure if a 9000 nonpro would. (You can force max settings for comparison sake as described here at Anandtech, but I don't know if you would want to).

2. I don't see a score difference between 640x480 and 1024x768, and the later is more common for most people to benchmark at anyway.

3. For comparisons, you need to realize that a 9000 nonpro < 9000 pro < 8500/9100 << 9500 nonpro < 9500 pro ... etc.

So I don't know if my 9500 Pro scores (XP2000+, 512MB PC2700 DDR, 7200RPM HD, Win ME) would help you at all, but here they are (at UT2k3 Max settings, but everything set to performance in ATI control panel - no AA/AF, etc.):

dm-antalus
68.315216 / 123.632050 / 351.184784 fps
Score = 123.698166

dm-asbestos
69.015236 / 146.032745 / 315.810303 fps
Score = 146.201447

dm-antalus
14.706083 / 50.316692 / 88.705956 fps
Score = 50.341717

dm-asbestos
25.249929 / 61.161533 / 98.798325 fps
Score = 61.209042

The first two are the flybys, and the second two are botmatches.

If it helps at all, I'm setting up a new ATI-built 8500LE 64MB in my son's computer next week (XP1800+, 384MB PC2100, 7200RPM HD, Win ME), and would be happy to come back here at post those scores. They should be far closer to what you would expect (although probably still slightly higher with the 8500).

EDIT: For comparison to people running AA/AF enabled, negligible effect on botmatch (0-10% reduction, depending on setting and test), but huge effect on flyby (10-40%, depending on setting and test).

 

[jonn]

yes i know there is a lot that varies scores on any bench. this is just for a ballpark idea of what the different raddys do in somewhat comparable computers. Then i havea basis to either up performance (oc) or get better hardware,etc. I only asked for 640x480 using the benchmark.exe test since it runs all the tests, flyby and botmatch then gives a final score for each. Scientific? absolute? no way, just a very general idea of performance comparasion.
Reason for this is this power color card was sent to me as a RMA on a Apollo Graphics 9000. And tho it is "good" im like the rest of you, "better" is better than good. Anyway, anyone that will post scores for me and what there hardware is will help with decisions, again thanks

 

[selfbuilt]

Just an update, but my new retail ATI Radeon 8500LE 64MB (230/230 clocks) on my son's system (XP1800+, Asus A7V8X, 512MB PC-333 DDR, 7200RPM ATA100 WD) scores as follows on UT2003 benches with Catalyst 3.2 drivers (640x480 / 1024x768 mode for comparison):

Fyby (average): 129.5 / 99.5
Botmatch (average): 50.5 /48.8

For comparison, my retail ATI Radeon 9500Pro 128MB (276/270) on a slightly faster system (XP2000+, Asus A7N8X, 1024GB PC-333, 7200RPM ATA100 WD 8M) scores as follows:

Fyby (average): 155.0 / 152.1
Botmatch (average): 60.0 / 60.3

For the tests, nothing OC, all stock settings, no AA/AF, and MaxDetail forced as described above.

Note that the 9500 Pro performs basically the same in 640x480 or 1024x768 modes, but the 8500 takes a substantial hit as you go up in resolution (as you would expect).

To put actual gaming in perspective, I run UT2003 with normal settings, 16X AF forced on, no AA, at 1024x768 with the 8500LE system. I get similar or slightly better framerates on the 9500Pro with the highest game settings, 16X AF forced on, 4X AA forced on, at 1024x768.

Hope that helps!

 

[Blastman]

The Botmatch is very CPU limited. In this French review (Duron 1.3) A MX440 was within 1fps of a 9700pro.

 

[jonn]

thanks for taking the time to test that for me, seems my powercolor does about the same as your 8500, my system is about the same as well. thanks