Can I call mrsskoorb dependent for taxes?

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Vic

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Vic
Yes, you can claim her as a dependant.
Because she had no income for the year, she doesn't have to file. So you file as "Married filing separately" and claim her as a dependant. Don't forget to claim "Head of Household" as well for the additional deduction.
The Taxcut software says that I can't claim head of household (it has a couple of questions to determine it), and that if she doesn't file I can't claim as dependent. Ah, this is what I get for spending $15 on my taxes. Grr.
My bad... got a terrible headache today. You can't claim Head of Household when married. I knew that.... Doh.
Anyway, look here:
http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/page/0,,id%3D11547,00.html
http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/page/0,,id%3D11791,00.html
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: KingNothing
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: KingNothing
Originally posted by: Skoorb
OK it's saying now that you can't if you're filing jointly, but if you file seperately it looks like you can.

Can't you call the IRS with questions like this? FWIW, my mom doesn't work (no income) and my dad files taxes as married filing jointly. How would you file separately if she didn't have any income?
INS isn't open right now though. I suppose you can still file even if you have no income, although you don't need to...

I sure hope you wouldn't have to call the INS about this. :Q
:D

 

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Thanks, vic. Seems that I can indeed file MrsSkoorb as a dependent. Although we're both "non-residents" in INS's eyes, for tax purposes we're both "residents" (IRS) and she had no income, so based on those links, it definitely appears that I can claim her as a dependent. I'll probably call IRS tomorrow to confirm a couple details on it.
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: Tallgeese
Originally posted by: Skoorb
She had no income last year, but it's not one of the options on the taxcut software - they have neice, son, parent, etc.
Maybe you can count "the girls" as dependents. :D

BTW: Don't worry, we'll each bake a cake with a file in it and send them to you to enjoy in your cell at Leavenworth.
Heh being that Leavenworth is a military prison, and they don't have to hold themselves to the same standards as civilian prisons, I don't think we would be getting any cakes or files in to old skoorbie ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
She sounds like a dead weight. I advise you to divorce her and ship her to Wisconsin :D
Now she's makin cash and I'm a kept man. Whoo hoo!

 

Tallgeese

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Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Tallgeese
Originally posted by: Skoorb
She had no income last year, but it's not one of the options on the taxcut software - they have neice, son, parent, etc.
Maybe you can count "the girls" as dependents. :D

BTW: Don't worry, we'll each bake a cake with a file in it and send them to you to enjoy in your cell at Leavenworth.
Heh being that Leavenworth is a military prison, and they don't have to hold themselves to the same standards as civilian prisons, I don't think we would be getting any cakes or files in to old skoorbie ;)
I'm not as well-versed on prisons as other folks on this board, obviously.
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:p ;)

I do think it would be fairly easy to convince "Homeland Security" that the Skoorbs are actually an elite terrorist cell set up for the express purpose of crippling the U.S.

I'm sure HS'll start formulating plans to neutralize a potential two-pronged attack via the Internet comprised of Skoorb's incessant neffing and MrsSkoorb's inability to play MechAssault via Xbox Live! :p
 

Tallgeese

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
She sounds like a dead weight. I advise you to divorce her and ship her to Wisconsin :D
Now she's makin cash and I'm a kept man. Whoo hoo!
Well, looks like Gobadgrs' "Plan To Get My Hands On MrsSkoorb #8679" just went in the sh1tter, didn't it?

BTW: Skoorb, all married guys are "kept" men.
 

GoingUp

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Originally posted by: Tallgeese
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
She sounds like a dead weight. I advise you to divorce her and ship her to Wisconsin :D
Now she's makin cash and I'm a kept man. Whoo hoo!
Well, looks like Gobadgrs' "Plan To Get My Hands On MrsSkoorb #8679" just went in the sh1tter, didn't it?

BTW: Skoorb, all married guys are "kept" men.

Dammit! Well if at first you dont succeed, try try again......

Skoorbie should be leaving for the weekend soon and thats when I'll strike ;)
 

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Dammit! Well if at first you dont succeed, try try again......

Skoorbie should be leaving for the weekend soon and thats when I'll strike
If you're talking about the training trip I just got back today. Oops!
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Thanks, vic. Seems that I can indeed file MrsSkoorb as a dependent. Although we're both "non-residents" in INS's eyes, for tax purposes we're both "residents" (IRS) and she had no income, so based on those links, it definitely appears that I can claim her as a dependent. I'll probably call IRS tomorrow to confirm a couple details on it.
$5.01 of bank interest in an account of hers would push it over the top, thus excluding her as "dependent" status.
 

EagleKeeper

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Filing as Head of Household with her as a dependent may get you in trouble. Research it very carefully. Look completely at the definition of a dependant.

Better to file as married jointly.
 

guyver01

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: KingNothing
Originally posted by: Skoorb OK it's saying now that you can't if you're filing jointly, but if you file seperately it looks like you can.
Can't you call the IRS with questions like this? FWIW, my mom doesn't work (no income) and my dad files taxes as married filing jointly. How would you file separately if she didn't have any income?
INS isn't open right now though. I suppose you can still file even if you have no income, although you don't need to...

whaever you do.. don't call the INS.. they'll deport you back to canada..

call the IRS :D

 

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Filing as Head of Household with her as a dependent may get you in trouble. Research it very carefully. Look completely at the definition of a dependant.

Better to file as married jointly.
I know I don't qualify to file as head of household, but I don't think that's needed for dependent...still working up the energy to call irs :)
 

dullard

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Sorry Skoorb, I didn't know there was an exception for people from Canada. You can ignore my comments above. Since this is an unusual exception, call the IRS to make sure you understand it properly.
 

guyver01

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I know I don't qualify to file as head of household

she has no income... and you're not the head of household? i guess we know who wears the pants in the family now :p

 

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Originally posted by: dullard
Sorry Skoorb, I didn't know there was an exception for people from Canada. You can ignore my comments above. Since this is an unusual exception, call the IRS to make sure you understand it properly.
Hmm, I didn't read the link from vic thoroughly yet, but I didn't get the impression that only because of my being a citizen of canada is what allows me to file Mrsskoorb as a dependent.
You can claim personal exemptions and exemptions for dependents according to the dependency rules for U.S. citizens. You can claim an exemption for your spouse on a separate return if your spouse had no gross income for U.S. tax purposes and was not the dependent of another taxpayer.
It seems that US citizens can do it as well, but if so many do not I wonder if they don't realize they can or if, and more likely, I'm missing some important factor here?

 

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Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Go to an H&R Block office, have them do the taxes.
No way am I paying $80 for somebody to do my taxes when it's really this easy. Other than this question my taxes are very straight forward and simple. No itemizations or anything!

 

Farmall

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: dullard
Sorry Skoorb, I didn't know there was an exception for people from Canada. You can ignore my comments above. Since this is an unusual exception, call the IRS to make sure you understand it properly.
Hmm, I didn't read the link from vic thoroughly yet, but I didn't get the impression that only because of my being a citizen of canada is what allows me to file Mrsskoorb as a dependent.
You can claim personal exemptions and exemptions for dependents according to the dependency rules for U.S. citizens. You can claim an exemption for your spouse on a separate return if your spouse had no gross income for U.S. tax purposes and was not the dependent of another taxpayer.
It seems that US citizens can do it as well, but if so many do not I wonder if they don't realize they can or if, and more likely, I'm missing some important factor here?

Our tax preparer gives us a comparison every year whether or not it would benefit us to file seperately or jointly. My wife works part-time and doesn't acrue that much income over the year. So far it has been to our benefit to file jointly. I think you would get hosed on taxes if you did the seperate return to claim Mrsskoorb as a dependent, the negative affects on your return would far outweigh the benefits of the other return.
 

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Ah screw it. I've decided not to pay taxes at all!

kidding :Q I've already paid them. Now I just want some moneys back!
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Filing as Head of Household with her as a dependent may get you in trouble. Research it very carefully. Look completely at the definition of a dependant.

Better to file as married jointly.
I know I don't qualify to file as head of household, but I don't think that's needed for dependent...still working up the energy to call irs :)

Head of Household requires a dependant!!!

 

EagleKeeper

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Run your numbers through the TurboTax on-line web site to determine what your status it. It will ask you questions and provide the actual IRS regs to determine your status.

I suspect that the only thing that you can save extra money on is the cost of moving. Make sure that you do the 2106 and/or the 3903 forms.

Buisiness expenses and moving costs. Moving does not require itemization, the Business expenses do.