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Can copy protection get any more annoying for legitimate customers?

EyeMWing

Banned
CDs that won't play in all your equipment (Or even get semi-permanently stuck, as with certain copy protected CDs and the slot loading iMacs)
Movies with red dots flashing on the screen.
Games that won't play on your computer because you have certain software installed or more than one optical drive.
Games that despite having copied "all files" to the harddrive during installation, still require the CD to be present to play.
Productivity software and OS's that you have to call the manufacturer to get authorization to use it after you reinstall 2 times.
Software that wants to phone home all the time and won't work without, thereby requiring you to have an Internet connection.

etc.

Can it get any worse for the paying customer? It seems like there's much more benefit to getting items through illegitimate channels now, which have all of these annoyances removed. I mean, the software industry used to tout how you only got a manual and customer support with a legit purchase. Are these flimsy little things I get in my game boxes manuals? More like "quick-start guides" that tell you how to work an Installshield. Customer support? EA told me my computer was defective when I called them about my inability to play NFS:U (Which was then traced back to their copy protection - NOT my computer). So where is the benefit in those two "perks" of legitimate buying? I don't see it anymore.
 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
so don't buy their products.

What do you suggest as an alternative? FreeBSD and neffing on ATOT all day?

You post a completely worthless thread complaining and then you scoff at the only alternative? I'm confused here. If you don't like it then don't buy it, it's quite simple.

Also, what does FreeBSD have to do with this?
 
You forgot how PowerDVD (versions XP and 5) prevent using an HTPC as a DVD player to a TV (by disabling the TV-out on the video card) when playing copyrighted DVD's. After all, you just might have your VCR hooked up and recording from your TV, and we just can't have that, now can we?
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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
so don't buy their products.

What do you suggest as an alternative? FreeBSD and neffing on ATOT all day?

You post a completely worthless thread complaining and then you scoff at the only alternative? I'm confused here. If you don't like it then don't buy it, it's quite simple.

Also, what does FreeBSD have to do with this?
Is there a reason you're a jackass all the time? No, really, I'd like to know - maybe then we could all understand. Since your threads are all so worthwhile (e.g. Ask CR a question.), please do tell how your thread is any less worthless than this.
 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
so don't buy their products.

What do you suggest as an alternative? FreeBSD and neffing on ATOT all day?

You post a completely worthless thread complaining and then you scoff at the only alternative? I'm confused here. If you don't like it then don't buy it, it's quite simple.

Also, what does FreeBSD have to do with this?

Product activation on windows xp I would imagine.

<--I'm refusing to see any Miramax picture in theaters anymore and advising all my peers to boycott them as well. I have even sent Miramax email's stating my intent and why I am doing it.
 
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
so don't buy their products.

What do you suggest as an alternative? FreeBSD and neffing on ATOT all day?

You post a completely worthless thread complaining and then you scoff at the only alternative? I'm confused here. If you don't like it then don't buy it, it's quite simple.

Also, what does FreeBSD have to do with this?

Product activation on windows xp I would imagine.

<--I'm refusing to see any Miramax picture in theaters anymore and advising all my peers to boycott them as well. I have even sent Miramax email's stating my intent and why I am doing it.

Share your reason with us?

 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
so don't buy their products.

What do you suggest as an alternative? FreeBSD and neffing on ATOT all day?

You post a completely worthless thread complaining and then you scoff at the only alternative? I'm confused here. If you don't like it then don't buy it, it's quite simple.

Also, what does FreeBSD have to do with this?

Worthless thread? Don't be silly. It's a pretty good list of current copy-protection fiascoes -- until read this thread I didn't realize quite how many we've seen in recent years. Good post, EyeMWing.
 
product activation that microsoft made is a joke, it was cracke before windows xp was even released. As for getting any worse yes they could just sell you a ticket with a number and then you will have to call the copany to schedule appointment time for them to come and instal that software and they wouldn'give you the disk after instaling the software.
 
Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
so don't buy their products.

What do you suggest as an alternative? FreeBSD and neffing on ATOT all day?

You post a completely worthless thread complaining and then you scoff at the only alternative? I'm confused here. If you don't like it then don't buy it, it's quite simple.

Also, what does FreeBSD have to do with this?

Product activation on windows xp I would imagine.

<--I'm refusing to see any Miramax picture in theaters anymore and advising all my peers to boycott them as well. I have even sent Miramax email's stating my intent and why I am doing it.

Share your reason with us?

The red dot experience with both Kill Bill and most recently Master and Commander
 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
so don't buy their products.

What do you suggest as an alternative? FreeBSD and neffing on ATOT all day?

You post a completely worthless thread complaining and then you scoff at the only alternative? I'm confused here. If you don't like it then don't buy it, it's quite simple.

Also, what does FreeBSD have to do with this?

Uhhh. Well, it has EVERYTHING to do with this. It *IS* an alternative. Problem being that 99% of the stuff that's worth having software wise is afflicted by these problems or somthing else in the same general category, and the alternatives often don't offer nearly the performance or usability. Sure, movies, music and games you don't need, they're entertainment, but software required to accomplish certain tasks (Office suites, etc.) are also afflicted, along with necessities such as operating systems.

Sure you and I could make do with Linux and OpenOffice, but could your average consumer? Hell no. Does the average consumer even know they exist? Definitely not.
 
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
so don't buy their products.

What do you suggest as an alternative? FreeBSD and neffing on ATOT all day?

You post a completely worthless thread complaining and then you scoff at the only alternative? I'm confused here. If you don't like it then don't buy it, it's quite simple.

Also, what does FreeBSD have to do with this?
Is there a reason you're a jackass all the time? No, really, I'd like to know - maybe then we could all understand. Since your threads are all so worthwhile (e.g. Ask CR a question.), please do tell how your thread is any less worthless than this.

He's making a very obvious point that is lost on you and EyeMWing - you still use those products because they are worthwhile products despite their annoyances. If there was something better that had no annoying features, you'd use it - but there isn't, so you can't, so you might as well get over it.

Most of what CR has to say is worthwhile, even if he does come off as being a jerk a lot of the time.

Edit: EyeMWing is catching on, but I don't think he realizes it.
 
Originally posted by: johnjosh
product activation that microsoft made is a joke, it was cracke before windows xp was even released. As for getting any worse yes they could just sell you a ticket with a number and then you will have to call the copany to schedule appointment time for them to come and instal that software and they wouldn'give you the disk after instaling the software.

I'd like to see that. Installers would be raided and warez would persist. But it'd be funny as hell to read news stories about a Microsoft installer being carjacked, beaten, having his installation media stolen and left for death in a ditch next to an old service road.
 
And now with the Internet being so prevalent, you usually can get better/faster support using that channel than the manufacturer. Of course the average person may not know how to effectively use that channel, but I bet a good majority do.

my motto:
invest in hardware, not soft
do make exceptions for the exceptional though

Good motto. 🙂 Why invest in buggy software that is buggy due to copy protection. They should have to perfect the copy protection so it doesn't affect the end user. Until then, get a crack and the bugs are gone.
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