ericlp
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Ommm, Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9/11...
Mission Accomplished to brain wash the public into thinking the bush admin could lie to them anytime they fell like it.
It gave bush some pretty good ratings!
It will make us think twice and tell bush where to shove it when he wants to attack Iran...
Just think how many kids we could have sent to college to become engineers and scientists...
What a waste....
sigh...
Red Dawn
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Cowardly? FYI Bubba, it's not the Americans over there who were too afraid to rise up against Hussien or too cowardly now to make a firm stand against the Insurgents. The only group there that had balls were the Kurds and it's no coincidence that the areas under Kurdish rule are the most stable in Iraq.
1. There is evidence Iran carried out the gas attacks on the Kurds in Halabja, notwithstanding the U.S. run up to war lies campaign. Even Iran claims about 3-5,000 kurds were killed, so you'll forgive me if I don't participate in your little "IT WAS RIGHT TO ATTACK IRAQ BECAUSE <fill in the blank>!!!!" party....
2. As for deaths attributed to U.S. intervention in Iraq, estimates range as high as 250,000 according to some reports.
The U.S. has directly killed over 50,000 civilians according to a number of sources. I just take a mean of the claims.
Look around, do a little research. I realize Americans are intellectually lazy, but come on....
How about no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11 for starters? Better over there then over here.
THere were no terrorist attacks between 1993-2001 .. I guess Clinton did a great job too!
Btw, we killed enough troops over there that 9/11 essentially has happened again.. not to count the 10s of thousands injured.
It's given all the liberals on this board something to bitch about for over 3 years now. You don't call that positive??
It gives us another military presence near china. Yep, this whole afghanistan thing, iraq thing, north korea thing... u.s. military is gunning for china. No more open door policy! Obviously we can't attack from the north because of that damn wall thing, but pretty soon all china's bases are belong to U.S.
You forgot ann coulter's cousin/first sexual encounter, Timmy mcveigh. Sure he was homegrown but he was a muslim, i saw a picture of him facing towards mecca once.
Are you freaking kidding me? Every hear of the USS Cole? Thats just for starters. If you want to bring Clinton into this, feel free, but his lack of doing anything about the Cole WILL be brought up.
Red Dawn
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Who's a Lib, anybody who's not a Neocon?
What are they trying to win, a base where they could attack us at home? Hell they'd have their hands so busy with the Sunni/ Shiite Militias trying to run them out of their country that they wouldn't be able to mount any kind of attack on us. The only reason the Iraqi Insurgents deal with them (and most don't) is because they share a common enemy which is the US as an occupying force. Remove that common enemy and there would be no reason for the Iraqis to put up with them.
You are a lib.
This is a common liberal argument. They do not admit that the terrorists who want US dead are fighting against us in Iraq right now. If we take them out over there, we do not have to take them out over here.
LOL
Unfortunaltey we only lossed a couple thousand soldiers though. It woul have to be a couple million before we see any real effect.
I stongly says that has little to do with anything. If anything we had more occurance if not likelyhood of terrorist attacks since we've invaded. We had to increase our security which cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ as well as the war figure stated above (if this is not already included in that figure. The amount of money we spent on the war if we just used this to secure our boarder it would of been significatley cheaper.
Red Dawn
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No I'm not, but I'm not a Right Wing Extremist like you Trust me, even Conservatives and Moderates find people like you nothing more than the Lunatic Fringe.
This is a common liberal argument. They do not admit that the terrorists who want US dead are fighting against us in Iraq right now. If we take them out over there, we do not have to take them out over here.[/quote]First of all I never said they weren't there to kill Americans, what I did say is that without us there the Iraqis who do deal with them now would turn on them and try to drive them out.
What we need to stop doing is being Security Forces for the Iraqi's. We defeated Saddam, now it's time for the Iraqi's to police themselves. We can still go after Al Qaeda and other Foriegn terrorist but we need to let the Iraqi's deal with the Militias and the Iraqi Insurgents.
It has definitely prevented us from not having high gas prices!
And while we can't really be certain, it may have prevented a lot of terrorist attacks on US soil that would have otherwise happened since 9/11.
Also, I feel much more comfortable now sleeping at night knowing that Iraq definitely did NOT have WMD's. I am so relieved.
And while we can't really be certain, it may have prevented a lot of terrorist attacks on US soil that would have otherwise happened since 9/11.
Also, I feel much more comfortable now sleeping at night knowing that Iraq definitely did NOT have WMD's. I am so relieved.
Sheik Yerbouti
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I'd let you borrow mine but the needle snapped off because it pegged so hard while I was writing my post.
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