Can anyone suggest a good modem and please no 3Com.

eP?

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I need a modem and due to recent experiences with 3Com, I'd rather buy another brand. It just needs to be internal, preferably PCI, and cost is too big of a deal but should be around $100. I'm thinking about the zoom 2920.

Thanks,
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RSI

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Doesn't diamond have a good one?
What about GVC? I have a friend who has a GVC and it's pretty damn good.

-RSI
 

*kjm

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eP? you need to let us know what happend. We could help you or point you the right way but we need more info on what went down. I have an external 3Com I may sell just dont know if I want to yet...
 

MWink

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I highly recommend Creative Labs/DSI modems. I have used a lot of these and they are by far the best (especially compared to USR).
 

Soccerman

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I highly recommend Diamond Multimedia's modems. I had great experience with their ISA 33.6kbps hardware modem.
 

Fingers

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diamond supra express is good for really cheap, you can sometimes find them at best buy for free, after your rebate of course.
 

Fingers

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diamond supra express is good for really cheap, you can sometimes find them at best buy for free, after your rebate of course.
 

Fingers

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diamond supra express is good for really cheap, you can sometimes find them at best buy for free, after your rebate of course.
 

andrey

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I would recommend against DSI / Creative modems. All of them draw a lot of CPU power, making it is almost impossible to stay online when you need to have couple application open.
3COM actually makes hardware PCI modem as well as Aztech. Both are pretty good.
 
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FYI - BB has never had the Supra Express for free after MIR or IR. They have had the Supra MAX, which is a regular-price-$40-winmodem, which they usually have on sale for $30 with a $30 MIR.

The Supra Express is fully hardware, comes in several different flavors (an older PCI but hardware modem, an ISA based, a parallel port based, and a USB port based, each one has different revisions like speakerphone or fax/modem or neither)
 

Midnight Rambler

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Another vote for the SupraExpress series.

Although USR/3COM are still the best for use when you have a crummy phone line ...
 

Modus

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There are a number of reasons to avoid higher priced "hard modems," especially those made by 3Com/USR, in favor of a common PCI winmodem.

1) Winmodems are dirt cheap.

While a good Lucent LT or Rockwell/Conexant HCF winmodem can easily be found for less than $10 US (see PriceWatch) the cheapest hardware modem costs nearly four times as much: $36 plus shipping and handling. And for a 3Com part, you'll pay even more. By contrast, you can sometimes find winmodems for $5 or even for free with special promotions.

Everything else we put in our computers is subject to a price/performance ratio. In other words, if the performance of a more expensive part does not scale linearly with its price, we don't buy it. (RDRAM, anyone?) The same reasoning must be applied to hardware modems. They certainly don't perform four times as well as winmodems of a quarter the price, and as we'll see, they often don't perform any better at all.

2) Ping times and throughput are not an issue.

Modern Winmodems such as those based on the Lucent LT chipset will display ping times below 100ms and connect speeds around 48000, which is more than adequate for any Internet activity, including online gaming. Any recent softmodem -- especially the HCF variety, where the hardware handles a bit more of the duty -- should exhibit similar performance. Below, a cut and paste job from a generic Lucent LT v.90 PCI, which sells for as low as $9 on PriceWatch:

C:\WINDOWS>ping -n 10 router.infoserve.net

Pinging router.infoserve.net [199.175.157.4] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=101ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=253
Reply from 199.175.157.4: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=253

Ping statistics for 199.175.157.4:
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 90ms, Maximum = 105ms, Average = 98ms

You may object that pinging an ISP would always yield good results. Actually, it's the only fair way to compare latency between modems. Pinging your ISP reduces the number of variables down to three: your modem's performance, the quality of your phone lines, and the nature of your ISP's modem pool. If we were to compare modems by pinging a fixed point on the Internet, we would quickly introduce several more uncontrolled variables: Internet traffic, server load, number of hops, etc.

Even if you ping your own ISP with an expensive hardware modem, I think you'll find it extremely difficult to match these numbers.

Not bad for $9, eh? ;)

3) CPU utilization is minimal.

One of the main arguments against winmodems has been that they consume CPU cycles. Fortunately, manufacturers have always made sure to set minimum CPU guidelines so that the effect is not noticeable. If CPU usage was ever a problem, it certainly isn't today.

CPU power has increased many, many times faster than the technology behind softmodems. For instance, the CPU usage of a typical winmodem hovers below 5% on a Celeron 333. This is in the range of the power required by Windows to spin an hourglass cursor; it's certainly not something that will eat into your game play significantly. Once again, we see the benifit of an HCF winmodem solution, where the onboard DSP relieves much of the stress on the CPU. And now we have people running around with 1 GHz processors. Any drop in frame rate will barely be measurable, let alone visible.

4) They are reliable.

In my consulting business, I've sold dozens of PC's equipped with the cheapest Winmodems I could find. Only one has ever come back with a genuine hardware defect.

Many ISP support techs have a grudge against winmodems because they feel these types of modems are responsible for an innordinate number of support calls. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, almost all new computers sold today use winmodems; a person with a new computer and a modem problem will likely be using a winmodem, simply because they are more prevalent. Second, winmodems actually require the drivers they ship with. A new PC user who can't tell the difference between his RAM and his hard drive space will feel his eyes glaze over when confronted with a manual telling him how to install softmodem drivers. Instinct tells him to phone his "Internet guys" and get them to help.

In truth, winmodems are no more apt to fail than hardware modems, and probably less so, because they have fewer electronic components.

5) Driver/OS support is excellent.

The Lucent LT, for example, supports Windows 2000, Windows 9x, Linux (see [L]http://www.linmodems.org[/L] under the Vendor section), and even the obscure BeOS. Lucent also seems comitted to releasing a new driver every few months, which means your modem's performance will always be as high as possible.

6) Affordable broadband Internet technology puts any analogue modem to shame.

Anyone using the Internet for more than email and chat sees the need for widely available broadband Internet access to replace our antiquated 56k connections. Trying to enjoy streaming audio or video over a modem connection is like trying to sip a thick milkshake through a thin straw. With the availability and affordability of high speed Internet access growing at a steady rate, it would be foolish to invest more than the minimum amount in modem technology that is already obsolete.

So when you consider the facts, there are very few valid reasons to avoid winmodems.

Modus
 

LXi

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I like the Diamond SupraExpress 56k, dont know if they make them anymore, its ISA. There is a PCI version but its a softmodem, called SupraMaxx.
 

Rigoletto

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Dynamode m56 h-r has a fantastic feature set for about £26. Look on Insight.
Is it as good as it sounds?
 

thebestMAX

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Hey,

Good luck, I had that is, with both Supra Express, not max, and Zoom.
Zoom may be best for the bucks.
Dont get a winmodem if at all possible, hardware based all the way.
 

NicColt

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I agree with LXi - Diamond Supra/express external v.90 best damm modem ever made.

A computer store (Inly Systems in Ottawa Ontario) sold me a brand new USR modem that they knew was defective and they would not replace it saying to call USR first since I had opened the box (well D'uh). USR said to send it in and they would be sending me a new one but it took 6-8 weeks. It was eventually known that USR knew that the entire batch was defective and that they were going to be recalled but knowingly sold them anyway because the new ones were not in the stores yet and they did not want customers to buy other brand name modems. Two lessons learned, I will never buy and discourage anyone from buying at Inley System in Ottawa and never even consider buying USR again. Like someone said USR is SUCK.
 

Soccerman

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I guess it's final.. the best hardware modems seem to be Diamond's Supra Express series. I personally would LOVE to trade my PCI hardware 3com 56k modem in for one of those babies..