Can anyone name a mATX, or mITX boards that have official Xeon support (with ECC)?

Imaginer

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The new Mac Pro brought something to light. There are many that are willing to vouch their configured computers are capable of the levels a computer processing workstation is capable of...

But I sometimes tend to disagree, given the precision processing one would have to account for. But I do agree that I would be inclined to build one of my own, for much cheaper, more custom oriented, and much like a gaming PC or typical PC, can be easily had... This is coming from someone who had used (not ideal but workable) HD7970s to display AutoCAD workspaces - and noticed over time display artifacts, and sometimes measurements and dimensions being off over time.

Problem is, most of the current Xeon boards are ATX (and larger). Problem as well, most Xeon boards are of the rackmount variety. There are few vendors that would make something as compact as a Xeon mATX or mITX board.

The ONLY thing I can find that maybe even close, would be using the X79 LGA2011 ASUS Rampage IV Gene. But there isn't any shown official support for Xeons, let alone the final memory validation of ECC support.

No where near in a buying position. But I am curious why a compact Xeon single CPU socket solution doesn't exist (save from OEM builders). But I should already know this answer - there isn't a market for user built precision workstations. Most likely, those machines are batched ordered from companies that can leverage a cheaper contracted support solution.
 

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Xeon E3 has lots of options in mATX (LGA1050). http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/#1150

LGA2011 Xeons are much more difficult. I recall Supermicro was proud to fit a Dual Processor in full size ATX with reduced ram slots. mATX Xeon Motherboards with reduced slots destroys some of the value of the LGA2011 platform so I can see product designers skipping it.
 
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Alan G

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Don't be so sure that you can match the Mac Pro specifications with your own build and do it cheaper. I thought so but was corrected on one of the photography forums I participate on. See these two sites:

Here is a compromised but comparison (they are an apple oriented site and did not mention about the performance difference of the ssds):

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...-pro-a-better-value-than-the-sum-of-its-parts

And here other calculations, under the pressure of Slashdot :

http://www.futurelooks.com/new-apple-mac-pro-can-build-better-cheaper-pc-diy-style/

Notice that this person does not use PCIe based flash but it's able to match the performance of the Mac by using RAID 0

Remember that Apple has tremendous purchasing power and gets components for much less than you or I can. My major interest is how they cool the fully loaded machine and keep the weight to 11 lbs.
 

Imaginer

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I made mention of an off topic note in the Operating Systems forum about an OP asking to choose between Windows 7 and 8.1, of which I made kudos to Apple for well integrating workstation class hardware in a small footprint. This is in similar to Microsoft and their Surface Pro/Pro 2 integration as well. (of course, that post is truncated for a strange reason - might as well make anew mention here)

While I am still accepting of the trade offs of individual component upgrades for the closed device (Surface Pro 2) and outright ordering the most I can for the lifetime of the device, the Mac Pro however (and by proxy, all desktop boxes systems) have more headway to servicing by user means, outright customization, and expandability outside of one source (Apple). It is also small for not a good reason. I have plenty of desk space (even more so since I do not do anything paper related with it anymore - other than paper taking up space). Most users have plenty of desk space too. It isn't too difficult now to fit a typical desktop tower next to a desk. The new Mac Pro is something I feel that was designed for apartments in costly VERY DENSE metropolitan areas that use library bookshelf organizational conversion where the dweller is ABSOLUTELY squeezing every nook and cranny out of the space per function and performance.

And to boot, I am asking for an mATX for reasons that a custom case (not going for pure smallest there is - Apple seems to beat that) that is of something of my liking. Mind you, nothing any OEM will put out will come close to satisfying what I like in a look of a case.

If there is any "joe" that is able to test (and if possible, have working) a Xeon and ECC memory with the X79 Rampage IV Gene, then that would all more be sweeter.

But this begs the question that would there be any user DIY workstations on the same market (possibly shrinking now) as the DIY gamer's market? It isn't like it is THAT hard to swap components, especially validated memory and validated cards. The only thing about DIY is that it is up to the user to keep track of individual component warranties.

For me, I sure would like that option.

(on a extended off topic note, there 'could be' an easy latch cover behind the kickstand of the Surface devices to swap batteries)
 
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