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can anyone help me overclock

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shalom

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i have an amd xp 1700+ palomino and an epox 8rda+. i have one 256 stick of crucial 2100 memory. can anybody know or can anyone recommend the settings for the best results. my graphics card is an ati radeon 7000. i hope this is all the information one would need. any help will be greatly appreciated. i did a search on this site and others and saw no settings for an athlon 1700. i tried to use the settings for the 2000, but they did not achieve any results. i played arround with the bios myself and was able to get 1.67 mhz. however, i do not even know if thats going to be stable since i've left the computer alone or a bit thanks again
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Read Read Read ... do your homework dood.
Use Google to find what your looking for.

Rule of thumb ... if you dont know what your doing ... dont do it.

Be carefull ... you could destroy your system.
 
we also need the heatsink+fan combo
along with power supply


pretty much the idea is:
up the fsb, when that doesnt work, up the vcore
when you hvae reached maximum, lower the multiplier and continue
up hte vdimm as well at some point

ill be finished a somewhat guide on overclocking soon, and ill pm you the link if you wish (when it gets up)
until then, maybe read read read (as sugested above) and get to konw different terms involved and waht each thing does
 
Noid: i've searched google and have not found anything pertinent to my system. maybe i'm not doing a proper search, but nevertheless i came to this site for some help. yes i am a beginner, but i did not know overclocking was such an esoteric skill. i'm here to learn, and i am fully aware of the repercussions of my actions, which is another reason i consulted with the members of this forum. if this is the wrong forum or website for such novice advice, i will gladly direct my question elsewhere.

ChampionAtTufshop: thanks for the general advice. i truly look forward to your guide. i have a pretty good idea of the terms and settings used for overclocking. i've tried upping the fsb and changing the multipliers, but have not gotten a good combination. i've been a bit skeptical about upping the vcore blindly, maybe the help of your guide may alleviate some of my anxiety. my power supply is an 300W antec model: PP300V. i'm using the stock cpu fan and heatsink that came with the 1700+ processor. i also have two case fans: the first is an antec 80mm smartfan, and the second is a generic 80mm fan which tops out at about 1500rpm. both fans are blowing into the system. however, running at 1.67 mhz my system temperature stays below 80F and my cpu rarely gets above 106F. i should have included this information in my original post, and i hope that i have addressed it properly at this point. once again thanks for your help, and i will greatly appreciate anymore.
 
I originally posted this for someone else, but it serves as an OC 101:

This sort of info is Motherboard specific, but in most cases the menu's and settings are common. It breaks down like this:

- You CPU has a frequency
- Your Memory has a frequency
- Your PCI bus and all other sundry busses have a frequency

They are all related as (usually) one single clock genrator is used to get the original clock speed. The relationship is often like this, although there are ALWAYS exceptions:

CPU speed = Memory speed(before DDR or QDR) x Multiplier value.
PCI speed = Memory speed(before DDR or QDR) / 3 (or 4 or even 5, the goal speed is 33Mhz as PCI devices often hate high PCI bus speeds, such as hard discs=data coruption!!!)
AGP Speed = PCI speed x data rate(2x, 4x, 8x), so 2x = 66Mhz if the PCI is 33Mhz and so on

Multipliers are locked on P4 and can be changed on Athlons. Some motherboards allow the PCI clock to be locked into 33Mhz, this is good.

So, original speed of memory on a 400Mhz P4 is 100Mhz(400Mhz QDR) and the multiplier is 20, giving 2Ghz. To overclock, set the fsb to 110 and the CPU speed upon next boot will be 2.2Ghz (110x20).

Et Viola, your first overclock. Now I have simplified the process by a great margin and there is much more to learn. Do a google on 'overclocking' and you'll be on the road to getting all the info you need.

Hope that helps!
 
Ok, Now a few things stand out in your post.

1. You have a 300W power supply. The +12V rating for that PSU is only 10A. You may want to consider upgrading this b/f you start juicing your CPU. Look for a PSU with a strong 12v line (at least 20A +). This will help with overall stability b/c of #2

#2: You will need to up your CPU voltage to get any sort of high FSB OC. Stay at 1.9 or lower (stock is 1.75) and you will be OK PROVIDING you have better than average Cooling. This means that you should invest in a HS/F that will keep your CPU cool. The stock unit is fine for everyday NON-OC'ing, but your temps will be perilously high if you OC with that stock HS/F still attached. (Over +/-50c and you are asking for trouble). You will also want to up the voltage on your memory to accomodate the higher settings. AGAIN, do this in small increments!

Once you have the above accomplished, begin by upping your FSB in 1mhz increments. Run a benchmark or 2 to ensure stability at that FSB speed and repeat. You will need to be aware that upping the FSB effects EVERY component in your system. Your PCI bus is 33mhz stock and your AGP bus is 66mhz stock. The DANGER is that once you get into high FSB settings you are stressing the other components in your system to run at higher frequencies than they like to run at (Video / Audio / HDD) and this could be problematic or fatal to some of the components.

The trick is to find the happy medium where you get the most out of your CPU without killing everything else. Don't be too greedy for that extra mhz or you could pay the piper!

Now go get a PSU and a better HS/F (and don't forget the Arctic Silver III thermal paste) and then do your searching here for more info.
 
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