Can a Trojan/Worm disable your firewall?

SubZeroX

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I was updating McAfee antivirus and firewall when I noticed that the Firewall has been disabled!! And I can't enable it because of some error. So I decided to reboot, then it said something about waiting for some program named MCI to end. I stopped it and rebooted. Tried to reinstall McAfee interent security but it didn't work, it had all kinds of errors. I seriously think I had a worm/trojan that got into my computer somehow. Any ideas?
 

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There was a virus floating around about 3 or so months ago that specifically targeted virus scanner and some personal firewall software executable files. I think it was the goner virus. That's a possibility at least.
 

Derango

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Once its on your system, a trojan can do pretty much anything it wants to do. I woulden't rule anything out...

does your anti-virus program detect anything?
 

n0cmonkey

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I dont think it was that long ago, but yes, virus writers are getting smarter. Imagine that. Will anti-virus companies be able to keep up? Im not so sure...
 

olds

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<< Once its on your system, a trojan can do pretty much anything it wants to do. I woulden't rule anything out...

does your anti-virus program detect anything?
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I was under the impression that AV programs don't look for Trojans, just virus'.
 

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<< Once its on your system, a trojan can do pretty much anything it wants to do. I woulden't rule anything out...does your anti-virus program detect anything? >>

I was under the impression that AV programs don't look for Trojans, just virus'.
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Im not sure why AV programs wouldnt look for trojans, since they are considered a virus... I am almost positive Norton and friends look for BO, BO2k, netbus, and sub7, which are all considered trojans by some people. (BO and BO2k being inexpensive remote administration programs). :)
 

SubZeroX

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No, McAfee anti-virus did not detect anything. The virus definitions were 6 days old so I think I was up to date. And did not install the latest Microsoft security update yet when I found out my firewall was disabled, but of course I updated it just now.

During the few times that I was fooling around trying to install McAfee internet security I had to reboot a few times, and once there was something about "should not see me is running", waiting for it to end or something.

This is weird. In the mean time I downloaded Zone Alarm coz stupid McAfee is not working!
 

olds

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<< Once its on your system, a trojan can do pretty much anything it wants to do. I woulden't rule anything out...does your anti-virus program detect anything? >>

I was under the impression that AV programs don't look for Trojans, just virus'.
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Im not sure why AV programs wouldnt look for trojans, since they are considered a virus... I am almost positive Norton and friends look for BO, BO2k, netbus, and sub7, which are all considered trojans by some people. (BO and BO2k being inexpensive remote administration programs). :)
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I say that because I got a Trojan and I always scan everything with Norton's. I now run Norton's and "The Cleaner", which scans specifically for Trojans.
 

n0cmonkey

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<< Once its on your system, a trojan can do pretty much anything it wants to do. I woulden't rule anything out...does your anti-virus program detect anything? >>

I was under the impression that AV programs don't look for Trojans, just virus'.
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Im not sure why AV programs wouldnt look for trojans, since they are considered a virus... I am almost positive Norton and friends look for BO, BO2k, netbus, and sub7, which are all considered trojans by some people. (BO and BO2k being inexpensive remote administration programs). :)
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I say that because I got a Trojan and I always scan everything with Norton's. I now run Norton's and "The Cleaner", which scans specifically for Trojans.
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I dont use AV programs since I dont use Windows, so they very well may not look for trojans. But the big programs that are considered trojans are looked for. *shrug*
 

Jzero

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<< Once its on your system, a trojan can do pretty much anything it wants to do. I woulden't rule anything out...does your anti-virus program detect anything? >>

I was under the impression that AV programs don't look for Trojans, just virus'.
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Im not sure why AV programs wouldnt look for trojans, since they are considered a virus... I am almost positive Norton and friends look for BO, BO2k, netbus, and sub7, which are all considered trojans by some people. (BO and BO2k being inexpensive remote administration programs). :)
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They look for Trojans...at least Norton does. In fact a couple weeks ago they got a little too excited and started "cleaning" my remote adminsitrator program, since it's _technically_ a trojan.