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[iGas]

It have been 20 years since the last time I purchase camera gears (EOS 10s & 630, and 5 lenses). And, now I'm ready to jump on the digital bandwagon.

I'm looking at getting a Canon EOS 5D or 5D Mark II. Are there much different in image quality between the 2 CMOS?

I'm not sure if I need video capability.

[add]

I have an additional $5.3K from income tax return, along with my budget of $2~$3K for a new body.

What set up can I get for $7~$8K.

 

[Numenorean]

5D MkII is far better. Not necessarily IQ wise on standard ISO's but the high ISO capability is ridiculous. If you can afford the MkII, get that one.

 

[shortylickens]

There are great cameras in the Camera forum.
Also: www.dpreview.com

 

[iGas]

I found it 5D is 12.8MP & 5D Mark II is 21.1MP

 

[bobdole369]

It have been 20 years since the last time I purchase camera gears (EOS 10s & 630, and 5 lenses). And, now I'm ready to jump on the digital bandwagon.

Stay analog.

 

[shortylickens]

I found it 5D is 12.8MP & 5D Mark II is 21.1MP

For reference more pixels do NOT equal higher image quality. Read up in the Camera thread and on www.dpreview.com.

 

[olds]

There are great cameras in the Camera forum.
Also: www.dpreview.com

Our form is dead. It's basically useless.

 

[iGas]

For reference more pixels do NOT equal higher image quality. Read up in the Camera thread and on www.dpreview.com.

Totally agree, however they are in the top self of Canon hence the image quality is equal or possibly higher on higher MP CMOS.

 

[Aharami]

why are you looking just at the full frame ones? The 7D is more advanced than the 5D MkII - has better low light capabilities, and has more focus points. But the 7D is APS-C

 

[bobdole369]

Totally agree, however they are in the top self of Canon hence the image quality is equal or possibly higher on higher MP CMOS.

Not exactly. More MP invariably means more noise and less ISO performance. However I happen to know that either of those are very - very good.

 

[Kaido]

It have been 20 years since the last time I purchase camera gears (EOS 10s & 630, and 5 lenses). And, now I'm ready to jump on the digital bandwagon.

I'm looking at getting a Canon EOS 5D or 5D Mark II. Are there much different in image quality between the 2 CMOS?

I'm not sure if I need video capability.

MKII has better low-light, plus the video feature is nice to have.

 

[iGas]

why are you looking just at the full frame ones? The 7D is more advanced than the 5D MkII - has better low light capabilities, and has more focus points. But the 7D is APS-C

I don't know much regard digital therefore I thought that full frame is better.

 

[iGas]

It is getting tougher by the minute.

Now we have 7D vs. 5D & 5D MkII

I'm going to try them out at the local stores to see which feel good in my hand.

 

[waterproof mp3]

Go with the Canon EOS 7D, I have been reading some great reviews about this camera.

 

[iGas]

Not exactly. More MP invariably means more noise and less ISO performance. However I happen to know that either of those are very - very good.

Are the image quality are equivalent to each others?

 

[Aharami]

go to a store and play with the cameras. You might like the bigger size and weight of the 5D MkII, or you might like the more compact packaging of the 7D

 

[BigSmooth]

FYI - not sure if you are aware of this, but if you already have a bunch of Canon EF lenses, the APS-C format will make all of them have a 1.6x "crop factor". All of the focal lengths of your lenses will effectively be increased by a factor of 1.6, which will likely change the way you use them.

Whether they will remain useful depends on what exact lenses you have. For example, a 50mm prime becomes an 80mm cropped equivalent, but that is still a very useful focal length. However, a 28-70mm lens will become a rather wacky 45-112mm equivalent on an APS-C camera.

 

[ElFenix]

5D is getting long in the tooth now. if your budget allows it the Mk 2 has hands down better IQ, canon's newer UI, etc. the 7D focuses better than either, has higher FPS than either, and probably matches the 5D in IQ (though DoF control will still be better on the original 5D).

 

[iGas]

After some research on the intarweb it is now a split between the 5D MkII or Rebel T2i.

Because there isn't much different between 7D, 60D, or T2i except for FPS, body construction size/weight.

 

[Smoove910]

I've always like the 7D due to it's weather-sealing, partial magnesium body, and dual DIGIC IV processors. Not sure if the 60D or T2i have those options... also to note there will be a T3i coming out soon, however I am not sure what benefits it adds over the T2i.

 

[AkumaX]

I've always like the 7D due to it's weather-sealing, partial magnesium body, and dual DIGIC IV processors. Not sure if the 60D or T2i have those options... also to note there will be a T3i coming out soon, however I am not sure what benefits it adds over the T2i.

the 60D and T2i only have a single digic 4 proc. otherwise all three have the same 18mp sensor and shooting video modes.

i wonder what they could possibly come outw ith for the T3i? it can't cut into 60D sales like the way the T2i is right now..

 

[BigSmooth]

The 7D's build quality is far above that of the T2i. It has more features, more physical controls, is more customizable, and has a more robust focusing system. It has a far faster burst mode due to the dual processors.

If none of the extras that it offers are important to you, then the T2i is certainly a great camera for its class. Some people simply don't like the plastic feel and small size of the Rebel series, but from an image quality standpoint the T2i can certainly deliver.

the 60D and T2i only have a single digic 4 proc. otherwise all three have the same 18mp sensor and shooting video modes.

i wonder what they could possibly come outw ith for the T3i? it can't cut into 60D sales like the way the T2i is right now..

It's entirely possible they could "nerf" the Rebel series somewhat or keep it pretty much status quo. The 60D was obviously an attempt to "re-position" that line due to the existence of the 7D, so maybe Canon is planning to bring the Rebel line back downmarket a little bit. The 60D is kind of a tweener right now and I really don't think it offers enough over the T2i to justify a higher pricetag.

 

[GoSharks]

More MP invariably means more noise and less ISO performance.

For the same generation sure, but that is definitely not the case when comparing sensors of different vintages.

 

[Sp12]

Why all the Canon recommendations? Unless he has some EF lenses he can reuse Pentax and Sony are where it's at. I mean, Pentax's crop sensor outdoes Canon's flagship full-frame in overall IQ, and has integrated IS and sports-shooter level AF and FPS to boot.

Seriously, if you're just jumping into DSLRs and have the budget Pentax's K-5 is stellar.

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_II-vs-Pentax_K-5 is a great site to quickly compare cameras, and DPreview is good for comprehensive overviews.

 

[ArizonaSteve]

Get a Nikon. You can't go wrong with a D7000 if you want the APS sized sensor (although, admittedly, a few too many pixels for my taste). D700 if you want full frame.